simplistic
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Post by simplistic on Jan 5, 2009 17:47:07 GMT -5
I definately am with Loudent on this one... but I'm biased ever since he stepped up with the Natural armor FIX back when a patch broke it.
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Post by highwayman on Jan 5, 2009 18:10:46 GMT -5
There's a few balance issues in Ud as expected because it's new.
But a level 13 dwarf is getting more xp from troglydites than elite spear goblins. The goblins hit much harder than the trogs do also(not sure what their ac is).
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Post by DEV Jlf2n on Jan 6, 2009 18:46:45 GMT -5
i would also like to make a suggestion to the team once you get a scripter back helping you: implement a rp exp system. a number of PW's use this (tfr is in the process of implementing one apparently). it works like this: if a pc is talking AND within a certain radius of another PC who is talking they get drip-fed a small number of xp per minute. there is a check to see if they move or do something else beyond just standing there every 10 minutes or so, if they are the drip-fed xp continues, if not it stops until they move or do something else. this it to stop abuse. this would help with people feeling like they have to grind rather than rp (see all previous comments in this thread). it would be a smaller amount of xp than grinding obviously (mebbe 5-10 per minute which would translate as 300-600 xp per hour, or mebber higher even like 20xp per minute who knows..) just a thought, it would be complicated to implement most likely but it would stop people bitching about grinding and such. Thats a pretty cool idea.
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Post by DM haunted on Jan 6, 2009 18:55:33 GMT -5
Yea at Sundren it was 30xp when you Were in RP and sometimes it would just trickle you here in there out of the blue...Im not opposed to the idea by no means,because I love rping.
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Post by Iceshard on Jan 6, 2009 19:41:42 GMT -5
I second that as I do more RP and PC events with hakeem than anything.
-Ice
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Post by adzling on Jan 7, 2009 11:01:44 GMT -5
well if someone is on good terms with hari mebbe they should poke him to see how he's doing it. it sounds like the best thing (besides mining) to happen to tfr.
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Post by Zealote on Jan 7, 2009 11:44:47 GMT -5
i would also like to make a suggestion to the team once you get a scripter back helping you: implement a rp exp system. a number of PW's use this (tfr is in the process of implementing one apparently). it works like this: if a pc is talking AND within a certain radius of another PC who is talking they get drip-fed a small number of xp per minute. there is a check to see if they move or do something else beyond just standing there every 10 minutes or so, if they are the drip-fed xp continues, if not it stops until they move or do something else. this it to stop abuse. this would help with people feeling like they have to grind rather than rp (see all previous comments in this thread). it would be a smaller amount of xp than grinding obviously (mebbe 5-10 per minute which would translate as 300-600 xp per hour, or mebber higher even like 20xp per minute who knows..) just a thought, it would be complicated to implement most likely but it would stop people bitching about grinding and such. Thats a pretty cool idea. I love you all.
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Post by DM Cephas on Jan 7, 2009 11:55:48 GMT -5
i would also like to make a suggestion to the team once you get a scripter back helping you: implement a rp exp system. a number of PW's use this (tfr is in the process of implementing one apparently). it works like this: if a pc is talking AND within a certain radius of another PC who is talking they get drip-fed a small number of xp per minute. there is a check to see if they move or do something else beyond just standing there every 10 minutes or so, if they are the drip-fed xp continues, if not it stops until they move or do something else. this it to stop abuse. this would help with people feeling like they have to grind rather than rp (see all previous comments in this thread). it would be a smaller amount of xp than grinding obviously (mebbe 5-10 per minute which would translate as 300-600 xp per hour, or mebber higher even like 20xp per minute who knows..) just a thought, it would be complicated to implement most likely but it would stop people bitching about grinding and such. Thats a pretty cool idea. As long as you can get the "AND talking" part of the check in there, I think it's a great idea. Even better if it checks for "((", "//", or "\\" string to discount OOC comments. If you don't, you'll end up with group meditations around a campfire with people AFK'ing to get free xp.
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Post by adzling on Jan 7, 2009 11:57:53 GMT -5
well it MAY be possible to limit such abuse.
if you have check for "\\" "ooc" + other similar ooc words like "level" and "xp" and such.
then again it may not be possible.
*shrugs*
wholesale abuse of such a system would of course ruin it.
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Post by DM Cephas on Jan 7, 2009 12:09:26 GMT -5
well it MAY be possible to limit such abuse. if you have check for "\\" "ooc" + other similar ooc words like "level" and "xp" and such. then again it may not be possible. *shrugs* wholesale abuse of such a system would of course ruin it. In hindsight, the string check may be time consuming and resource heavy to do once you take into account all the players. If the talking part is at least accounted for, I guess it'd be okay still.
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Post by DEV Jlf2n on Jan 7, 2009 12:49:52 GMT -5
Driller said he already had some scripts like this. He is going to look into it for us.
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Post by goggmagogg on Jan 7, 2009 12:50:09 GMT -5
I don't think there should be any concern over abuse of this, I would expect the rate of the drip-feed to be configurable, and therefore the rate can be agreed by the community.
The greater risk would be people getting greedy and complaining that the rate is not enough. But hey It's "free" XP that you get while doing what you love (RPing), afterall, you currently get nothing for you RP other than the pleasure of each other's company, and some DM love if it is an event.
When this was implemented on the old PW I played on, there was just such a whinge about the amount of XP, which resulted in the script being removed. Some folks were definitely displeased with that. You reap what you sow.
//Gogg
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Post by broham2 on Jan 7, 2009 12:52:46 GMT -5
Bah.. there will be whiners no matter what, might as well please those that wish to be pleased!
I don't care what the amount of XP is really, anything to encourage RP is a good idea!
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Post by DeathlessFigure on Jan 7, 2009 13:12:58 GMT -5
Bah.. there will be whiners no matter what, might as well please those that wish to be pleased! I don't care what the amount of XP is really, anything to encourage RP is a good idea! Yeah, everything that engourage RP, even if not in a DM event. There are some people, whom RP only in DM events and grind for the whole other time ( Just some people I've seen doing this... Not the majority.) Maybe some people do this because they can't get XP for non-DM Rping... Heck, I always prefer a little chat over some mindless killing...
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Jan 7, 2009 13:18:47 GMT -5
Would the volume of words pouring forth from the mouth of the PC increase the XP flow? If so, I know a character that could get masses of XP this way. ;D
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