mute83
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Post by mute83 on Apr 26, 2009 14:10:42 GMT -5
So just because of a few we should punish the many who do things as responsible and mature people? Frankly speaking, the DM's know who is an asshat already i'm very sure of that. And if such an asshat exists and persistently gets complained about, they will be most likely removed. There is such a thing as a "ban" button. As I said earlier, I've never came across a player that stupid to actually Download all the files for the PW (a huge amount of time), Place all the files in each corresponding folder, Generate a character on server that has rules against powerbuilding, levels to near epic (assuming you grind it takes at least 2 months with no DM events), and then run around pwn'ing for no reason, then risk getting permanently banned...... See how ridiculous this is? It's just you all are paranoid about the possibility which is statistically marginal.  well, there are already people who have done that. execpt they didnt reach epic levels |
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Post by eggshen on Apr 26, 2009 15:16:37 GMT -5
I guess Dog will need to spend time sending OOC-tells to people asking them if he can take a swipe at their critter. What will be interesting is the OOC response you get. . . I don't think he needs to even go OOC-- maybe just more elaborative RP than one word prior to attacking-- ie. drooling, thinking out loud, rubbing his stomach or it making hunger noises... that sort of thing is all that is needed to give the other player some heads up and a chance to have fun with and add to the RP. Well that's what I'd do. But adzling has stated that he prefers to really be the character when he's playing. So now we're asking him to do something his character might not normally do (waste time talkin'), or to send a tell in order to get permission to do what his character would do (namely, kill the bunny and eat it up, yummm, no questions asked). It's really up to him how he chooses to play it. But if people don't want him to do it, I guess that's that. |
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Post by adzling on Apr 26, 2009 15:33:58 GMT -5
well the real issue imho is whether or not people actually think their familiar = their character and an attack on their familiar = an attack on their character and hence = PvP.
i had never considered that to be the case from my perspective as a wizard and as a non-wizard but it's apparent that the majority do.
i am happy to abide by the majority consensus, it's really no skin off my nose.
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snarg
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Post by snarg on Apr 27, 2009 23:06:48 GMT -5
What is PVP? Baby don't kill me, don't kill me, anymore.
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Post by c2k on Apr 27, 2009 23:31:04 GMT -5
I didn't understand the Underdark query, so I didn't vote for it, but pretty much everything up their I would consider a PvP action. If you do any of that, you should expect a PvP response in return, otherwise it's bad form.
And the familiar is actually worse than summons or animal companions in regards to attacking it, because if it dies, it hurts the caster.
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Post by CrispyWalrus on Apr 28, 2009 0:44:39 GMT -5
Basically the UD option means that PvP should be auto-consented to by nature of being the UD-- sort of like everyone there is in the PvP club automatically. I only added this because I've been PvP'd in the UD three times and never been set hostile or had any notice. In every case had the person told me afterwards that PvP is auto-consented to in UD, but when I asked the staff said no. Anyway I just wanted to see how folks felt given this rampant rumor.
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Post by eggshen on Apr 28, 2009 2:43:27 GMT -5
Even IF it were auto-consented to, they still need to set you to hostile prior to attacking, simply so the game works correctly.
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broham1
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Post by broham1 on Apr 28, 2009 5:52:24 GMT -5
Even IF it were auto-consented to, they still need to set you to hostile prior to attacking, simply so the game works correctly. Exactly! |
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Post by kman666 on May 4, 2009 1:50:17 GMT -5
The ideal would be to have auto-consented PvP with common sense.. Too bad some people seem to lack that..
I still think that PvP makes the game more interesting, especially when there are different factions and races that struggle for power.
Naturally there would be some casualties..
I do not really see how it fits with rp, to be able to say what ever you want and still not consent to PvP. It just does not make any sense. Infact by doing so, you might destroy the other players rp.
I think PvP brings a lot more to the PW than it takes away. Of course there would be some problem cases, but those are probably individuals who should be dealt with as such. Not kill the whole concept for the actions of a few.
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Post by Zealote on May 4, 2009 11:51:01 GMT -5
Well, I for one, dont like the consent rule, but I abide it, because its the rule. Its an OOC rule that governs IC behavior, but a rule nonetheless.
But, keep in mind that I will not allow you to ruin my RP or the RP of the moment, because you or anyone else wants to hide behind a rule.
Reading the rules I can explain:
1. This is a role-play server but you aren't forced to role-play. If you don't want to role-play thats fine, just don't ruin it for people who do.
8. If your going to get into Player vs Player for ANY reason, be it racism, threats, ANY sort of conflict, offer them an OOC out of the situation, its ok to warn them that the next conflict is unavoidable, we dont want to limit RP but consideration should be used.
If someone starts to push my character around, at the point where PvP is unavoidable, I will send a tell asking for consent. If you deny, even knowing that your actions were leading to PvP, I will simply ignore you. RP with someone that hides behind a OOC rule to do as he pleases IC is not worthy of my time. Its just pure, plain bad RP.
Although I respect those that dont like PvP, and avoid it IC. And if, by any chance, im the guy inciting PvP, and ask for your consent and you deny, that is perfectly fine, according to the rule:
9. Some people don’t like PVP period and are uncomfortable with it, if someone says they don’t like PVP do NOT force it on them, forcing PVP on someone who told you they don’t want it is very bad.
Note that those situations are completely different.
And, according to Rule Nº 8, after my OOC warning, if you do not comply, I will engage. "offer them an OOC out of the situation, its ok to warn them that the next conflict is unavoidable, we dont want to limit RP but consideration should be used.". If I warn you, like the Rule says, and you still continue to push me around, you better be ready to PvP.
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