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Post by Zealote on Dec 14, 2008 15:45:37 GMT -5
I wouldnt go that far my fellow Iceman, since shadowdancers dont have attack skills, like assassins do......wouldnt you agree Mr. 50 Cent-hidden-stalker-drow-Fist-killer?
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Post by broham2 on Dec 14, 2008 15:54:49 GMT -5
As a "Hipster in waiting" (next level), I think all the hub-bub about the skill is a bit much.. it doesn't bring the rogue nearly in line with the cleric or the mage, and seems like just one more thing to complain about. Spot and Listen counter act the skill for cryin out loud. I wish spot or listen debuffed the casters....
This is a fantasy game, as has been said, and we all play it for fun.
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Post by Zealote on Dec 14, 2008 16:15:10 GMT -5
I wish spot or listen debuffed the casters.... . Rofl
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Post by eldur(retired) on Dec 14, 2008 16:21:51 GMT -5
I wish spot or listen debuffed the casters.... . Rofl Yes, that brought a smile to my face as well. ;D
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Post by blametherogue on Dec 14, 2008 16:35:27 GMT -5
Yes, that brought a smile to my face as well. ;D lol, "i see your bubbles!!" *gives the evil eye and the bubbles disappear* spot, debuffing mages since the hips thread
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Post by larkin on Dec 14, 2008 17:02:30 GMT -5
I am with you in that.
But I play one of the few melee types on the server, and even having my spot as high as it can be with cross-class skills does not help, because those Rogue/Ranger/Shadowdancers have hide and move silent as a class skill. So basically, they are at least 10 points away in most cases.
So what should I do? Take one level of rogue to spend all points in spot??
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Post by blametherogue on Dec 14, 2008 18:20:48 GMT -5
fighters are tougher than rogues, but not as skilled. i'd love to have a skilled fighter, or a tough rogue, but that's just not how the classes work. you can counter a skilled character with a skilled character. it's good to have a rogue or ranger in the party. every class has strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Dec 14, 2008 18:43:32 GMT -5
As a "Hipster in waiting" (next level), I think all the hub-bub about the skill is a bit much.. it doesn't bring the rogue nearly in line with the cleric or the mage, and seems like just one more thing to complain about. Spot and Listen counter act the skill for cryin out loud. I wish spot or listen debuffed the casters.... This is a fantasy game, as has been said, and we all play it for fun. Uh...I said before I have no problem with HIPS in itself, but rather that a certain CLASS is being used solely to gain HIPS. BTW, that thing about the casters... you should put it in the appropriate thread in which we tell everyone how good casters are. ;D
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Post by Iceshard on Dec 14, 2008 21:45:51 GMT -5
I am with you in that. But I play one of the few melee types on the server, and even having my spot as high as it can be with cross-class skills does not help, because those Rogue/Ranger/Shadowdancers have hide and move silent as a class skill. So basically, they are at least 10 points away in most cases. So what should I do? Take one level of rogue to spend all points in spot?? Um, you wont even come close to those of us who are serious about that skill set. You have people with 40's and 50's in the skill being level 16 and 17.. Just think of what itll be at higher levels The only time you see us is when we want you to... Never know what hit'em -Ice
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Post by broham2 on Dec 14, 2008 21:53:25 GMT -5
Why do I always hear the 'Jaws' theme song in my head when I think of your play style. Lol.
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Post by Iceshard on Dec 14, 2008 22:09:08 GMT -5
lol you should be hearing "Nuclear Launch Detected" when you think of Hakeem.. or somewhat chanting "Durka Durka Muhammad Ali Jihad!"
-Ice
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Post by Zealote on Dec 14, 2008 23:13:55 GMT -5
I rather sing in my head: Another one bites the dust..... I'll be waiting for ya, 50 Cent.
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Post by lorgin2003 on Dec 15, 2008 17:48:29 GMT -5
You have people with 40's and 50's in the skill being level 16 and 17.. i'd love to know how to get it that high. phantom's 18th level and is pretty much based around stealth and SD, but his hide is only in the low 30's and his MS is 5 lower than that. when it comes to stealth gear, i buy what i can find, and i haven't found a single item that gives more than +2 in either of those skills outside of a single Dm event where i got a cloak of elvenkind(hide +5) so, where can i get the necessary gear to get his stealth that high? i've been to every shop on the server and have yet to find this stuff.
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Post by vytek on Dec 15, 2008 18:19:26 GMT -5
have to member that your skills wont be but 3 above your level in your class skills plus your bonus points for ability bonus and the guy braggn on his stealth is the dm who makes the eq ... so dont expect to ever match him...
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Post by Zealote on Dec 15, 2008 18:32:41 GMT -5
Oh man, he nailed us again! That is one smart guy! Anyway.....i'll just log in a play.
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