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Post by vaden on Dec 17, 2008 10:47:40 GMT -5
I think the UD will be a super addition to the BG server!! Personally I would like to see it populated with - Earth Elementals, Umber Hulks, Glow Spiders, Mindflayers, Dire Badgers, Dire Wolverines, some undead, Bombardier Beetles, Fire Beetles, Shambling Mounds, Giant Spiders, Kobolds, maybe some gargoyles, a few Shadow Mastiffs... and some Fire Giants... I think all of those make sense...
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Post by tristanvaneer on Dec 17, 2008 12:17:34 GMT -5
Something needs to be remembered about the drow city that is going to be implemented. Sshamath is known to have an extreme amount of power in their region so much so in fact that the city is described to having NO COMPETITION in the region allowing the wizards to took control to search for Netherese ruins and the magical treasures that they contained. The rules of Sshamath are also alot different than the usual Lolth fare, other races are welcome here to trade and even offered a small amount of respect if they are able to weave arcane magics. So seeing duergar, dwarves and the multitude of other races in this city is not going to be rare and they are not going to be considered hostile unless they bring it upon themselves.
With that said I would like to note that leveling a drow for me has been nigh impossible. I am playing a rogue/wizard build and with what little AC and HP I have even wolves have proved to be a difficult advesary. The biggest obstacle for anyone playing a race with ECL penalties is getting to that 2nd level. Experience points are reduced by half or more for members of these races even if you are at the same level as another, this seems strange to me and I'm not sure why its like this but I think doing something so that a drow receives the same amount of exp for killing a goblin as anyone else would is a big step in the right direction. They already pay the price for their abilities by having to gain an extra level or two worth of experience to achieve the same goal as another.
I would personally like to see a mob of Mindflayers, but having them be made for near epic or epic level only. Same for a beholder mob. Other mobs I would like to see include giant worms, hook horrors, umber hulks, drider, goblins, kobolds, ogres and I think a dragon would be really nice to see.
Perhaps we could include an area controlled by a demon leader and his demonic minions between the Underdark and the surface. Someone like the demon in the War of the Spider Queen if anyone has read that.
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Dec 17, 2008 13:32:52 GMT -5
The reason the XP gets cut down for ECL races before they reach a level is because the XP is that a PC gets is based on the current XP amount, not the level. I made a chart for this: CHART
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Post by tristanvaneer on Dec 17, 2008 18:09:31 GMT -5
That link helped me understand it a little better and I don't feel quite so cheated/shorted... however you want to put it. It seems that its not based on XP amount... but on what level the game "thinks" you are. At 1st level I am getting about the same experience for creatures that my 3rd level character without an ECL was getting.
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Post by DM mithari on Dec 17, 2008 18:15:31 GMT -5
That link helped me understand it a little better and I don't feel quite so cheated/shorted... however you want to put it. It seems that its not based on XP amount... but on what level the game "thinks" you are. At 1st level I am getting about the same experience for creatures that my 3rd level character without an ECL was getting. That's how level adjustment works by default. As a 1st level character with +2 level adjustment, you are effectively level 3 as far as experience gains go.
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Post by Jiszo on Dec 18, 2008 3:02:39 GMT -5
ahh, that makes a lot of sense. I was unaware of how it worked. Thanks.
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Post by DM mithari on Dec 18, 2008 3:14:29 GMT -5
Yeah... It does make a lot of sense. For what it's worth, I played it wrong for about a year in PnP before it suddenly struck me while reading the Dungeon Master's Guide handbook on the loo how it's intended to be ran. ;D
Equalizer, not penalty. Equalizer, not penalty. Equalizer...
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