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Post by gulli05 on Dec 11, 2008 9:53:46 GMT -5
The Kill-on-Sight only applies to the drows right? Not to half-drows, duergar and other underdark player races or planetouched?
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Post by DM mithari on Dec 11, 2008 9:55:09 GMT -5
Half-drow are subject to it as far as I know.
Tieflings are disliked, but I'm not sure if it's to the point of "KILL!" fanaticism.
Don't know about the others.
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Post by His Masters Voice on Dec 11, 2008 10:08:07 GMT -5
*cough* And only after determining that the character is a drow, and not by examining them, or stopping everyone that has a helmet. The metagaming has shot through the roof the past two days accompanied by some poor use of roleplaying.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Dec 11, 2008 10:22:57 GMT -5
Does this mean drow can be killed without consent?
And if yes, can drow kill anyone else without consent?
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Post by His Masters Voice on Dec 11, 2008 10:24:46 GMT -5
Not to my knowledge, as this would support alot of griefing.
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Post by Zealote on Dec 11, 2008 10:32:02 GMT -5
If the player with the drow character is up to RP his/her race, then you can RP the Kill on Sight. But NEVER kill someone that DONT want to RP and/or PvP. So just send him/her a tell asking if they are up to it, and as HMV said, you can only know a drow if you see his/her face or something, or if he says so (!!!!). Please avoid metagaming because it sucks. We do not enforce RP or PvP. Keep that in mind please.
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Post by caveman282 on Dec 11, 2008 10:33:33 GMT -5
I know it is for drow. Duegar I would think so because they are known as an evil race, not near as bad as drow but still evil. Deepgnomes are not an evil race. They are not near as social as their surface cousins and also more suspicious of outsider due to being the only underdarkrace that is not inherently evil. They do allow some outsiders but will use caution.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Dec 11, 2008 10:38:49 GMT -5
I've been getting a lot of questions about non-consensual pvp since the bounty went in.
It happened before the bounty, but now it's escalated.
I agree from an r/p standpoint that if you are a level 5 insulting a level 20 using r/p, and the level 20 smacks you down, you have no right to complain and say "hey, i didnt agree to pvp".
But kill on sight takes away a lot of r/p conversation out as it's just combat.
Player sees drow, player kills drow. KOS = no questions asked (or need to be asked)
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Post by larkin on Dec 11, 2008 10:44:11 GMT -5
Well, by creating a drow, people should automatically agree to PvP. Simply because now they KNOW that the bounty on their heads is there.
The problem is: what to do with old drow characters?
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Post by broham2 on Dec 11, 2008 10:47:25 GMT -5
Duergar I am not sure about.. I know in the North, near Luskan and thereabouts they would be more familiar with what a duergar is so they may attack on site.. i dont know about BG.
Deep Gnomes however, are so rarely encountered on the surface (well, lol, supposedly) that most people would probably react with curiousity or wonder why the gnome looked so odd.
In all reality, most people would likely run on site of drow unless they are pretty confident in their abilities. Drow are scary things in the realms.
Oh, and FYI, if anyone catches me playing my lvl 1 drow (and your character would have a reason to know its a drow), feel free to PVP without warning. I only log in as the drow when I feel like giving some new players an interesting experience, and I dont mind dying.
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Post by mrdeadman on Dec 11, 2008 10:48:33 GMT -5
And a point I would like to make, I don't need you to ask me if I want to PVP cuz I will. I don't care if you are human, drow, dwarf whatever at least have the common courtesy to put me to hostile before you just attack me. I don't care if you are a level 25 that gets his jolly's by killing 8th level characters, just do this one thing. If you turn me hostile and immediately blast me to death then I will at least respect you. This has been a requirement for every kinda of PVP on any server I have been on and most of those have had less defined PvP rules than this server so I would expect this from everyone.
This works both ways; if you are drow or not drow.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Dec 11, 2008 10:54:32 GMT -5
I don't care if you are human, drow, dwarf whatever at least have the common courtesy to put me to hostile before you just attack me. This makes a lot of sense to me.
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Post by larkin on Dec 11, 2008 10:59:00 GMT -5
I don't care if you are human, drow, dwarf whatever at least have the common courtesy to put me to hostile before you just attack me. Yes, it's a pain in the ... errr ... you get what I mean, when the attacker is not vulnerable (or simply can't be triggered due to being a "friendly", thus invalid target) to any special attack or spell.
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Post by broham2 on Dec 11, 2008 11:33:43 GMT -5
Just to make it more interesting, I'd actually prefer the tell at least a day out with most of my characters, so that I can consent to it but still wont know when/where. I'd hate to send someone a tell asking for PVP and then see them immediately start to buff...
But again, with my drow its on and crackin.. I'd prefer you to be lvl 1-4 at least since im still only lvl 1, but come and get me suckas! Drow are raiding the surface! ha ha.
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Dec 11, 2008 12:48:20 GMT -5
Yes, the problem with doing one thing to increase RP in one way leads to just griefing or killing without consent all the time. So, as others have stated please ask the person if he is willing to do PVP then turn him to enemy. BUT, to make things a little more interesting (sending a tell then attacking is no surprise) I will create a sign-up sheet for all characters who play drow. If you put your name on it, then you consent to being attacked without warning. The sign-up sheet is HERE
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