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Post by caveman282 on Dec 11, 2008 12:57:56 GMT -5
Well, by creating a drow, people should automatically agree to PvP. Simply because now they KNOW that the bounty on their heads is there. The problem is: what to do with old drow characters? Stay in hidding until the Underdark comes out, I think thats the point of the bounty is to make it even more risky to play a surface drow. If you want to play sure go ahead and play but if you don't want to be hunted stay hidden until your new home arrives. I think anyone who knows anything about D&D and or NWN know that drow are hated across the realms pretty much everywhere. Simply by creating the char you are consenting to the PVP/hostilities that will be coming your way. The ones who dont want to PVP want to grind their way to high lvl and then say hey im super uber powerful now come kill me. I think sending a tell asking if consent to PVP is silly for any char. If an assasign wants to hunt somone turn them to hostile and start the hunt. I think its kinda lame to stalk somone then turn them to hostile once you found them unbuffed. But as for me if you don't turn me to hostile. Then to me the attack/death never happened. By setting somone to hostile ahead of time and you allow them time to do whatever, like say hey i dont wanna pvp or atleast prepare or travel with others. I think that is an honorable thing to do among players even if its not the Best RP. |
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Post by Zealote on Dec 11, 2008 14:31:30 GMT -5
Ok i know i dont play a drow, but ill be hunting them, so if ANYONE wants to PvP with me, there is no problem. Just put me on hostile and attack. No warning is needed. Altought i will warn the drow im attacking.
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Post by shorn on Dec 11, 2008 17:13:54 GMT -5
I have to counter the "meta-gaming aspect" of stopping people with helmets. My character can see the approximate proportions of what an elven character looks like. He also has the full use of reasoning abilities, as we do assume that all characters are possessed of enough intelligence to be considered sentient.........
Therefore, a wiry looking person running around in robes with a gigantic full face metal helmet on is out of place to say the least. Not to mention awkward, unbalanced, and most of them wouldn't have the strength to so much as lean over without falling to one side.
So, I would put forth that considering that meta-gaming would be tantamount to implying that all of our characters have an intelligence score of 4 or less.
That aside, a proof, if you will, of my theory. Azrael, assuming that the lithe humanoid in robes was a drow, and being curious, pursued the matter of the helm with a person, who refused to prove his racial heritage by removing it. This started his assumption that all lithe humanoids wearing helmets are likely, but not neccessarily drow. This applies to anyone not wearing metal armor, which applies to all but one drow that i know of. Since then, he has been proven IC correct in three of his assumptions, with another two still in the air, as he cant go around demanding people take their helms off, being neutral towards all characters until the commit some for of insult against nature, law, players, ect.
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Post by thegnomeherder on Dec 11, 2008 17:18:56 GMT -5
Why would an elven mage not wear a helmet?
From the logical aspect if he gets hit in the head he will die, a Plate Helm is a lot more helpful than a hood or a Ringlet on your head lol
What kind of maniac wouldn't wear a helmet when the wilds are teeming with all sorts of monsters that want nothing more than to kill you and eat your head?
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Post by lorgin2003 on Dec 11, 2008 18:37:47 GMT -5
this is kinda in line with what shorn said, but the character's height does play a role as well. helmet or not, something that's shorter than your normal elf but taller than a halfling/gnome is usually a drow. granted, there may be an occasional instance where it turns out to be just a short elf or a tall halfling/gnome, but more often then not that isn't the case.
granted, height alone isn't enough to make any accusations, but it does add another piece to the overall puzzle.
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Post by DEV Akavit on Dec 11, 2008 19:17:32 GMT -5
About the helmets....
The game lacks good options for disguises so players need to keep in mind that drow really have no option but to pick between two pieces of headgear to cover their faces. For this reason it's best to consider the helmet to be a generic disguise rather then say, "Hey look! He's wearing one of those helmets that the drow like so much."
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Post by shorn on Dec 11, 2008 19:18:11 GMT -5
Have you ever worn a plate helm gnomeherder?
I suggest you try just wearing a plate helm, and walk around a bit. You might find it remarkably enlightening.
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Post by broham2 on Dec 11, 2008 19:20:48 GMT -5
About the helmets.... The game lacks good options for disguises so players need to keep in mind that drow really have no option but to pick between two pieces of headgear to cover their faces. For this reason it's best to consider the helmet to be a generic disguise rather then say, "Hey look! He's wearing one of those helmets that the drow like so much." What he said.. which is a good case for the inclusion of a hak pack with masks and what not. |
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Post by thegnomeherder on Dec 11, 2008 19:39:09 GMT -5
Have you ever worn a plate helm gnomeherder? I suggest you try just wearing a plate helm, and walk around a bit. You might find it remarkably enlightening. haha no sorry I don't happen to have a Plate helmet lying around my closet. I just know if I lived in the realms and frequently walked the overly dangerous roads I'd cling to my helm for dear life. |
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Post by atlas on Dec 12, 2008 2:48:35 GMT -5
Spellcasters have to be able to see what they are doing and be 100% focused on what they are doing, chanting in the right tone and making hand signals to be able to cast spells. You cant really do this in a helmet, they would be like 30% spell failure if not for game balancing issues.
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Post by needcoffee on Dec 12, 2008 14:33:00 GMT -5
perhaps a faction system set up so if you played drow or another known evil race you would log into the server hostile to all the so called good races...this does not mean massacer on sight ... but it does set more of a mood to the play with some good RP it can be a good thing.
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Post by driderman on Dec 12, 2008 17:19:58 GMT -5
perhaps a faction system set up so if you played drow or another known evil race you would log into the server hostile to all the so called good races...this does not mean massacer on sight ... but it does set more of a mood to the play with some good RP it can be a good thing. You could always set the server to hostile when you log on. I've done this on several PWs with appropriate characters, and it certainly adds another dimension to it. People seem to suddenly not automatically regard me as a member of the Jolly Brotherhood Of Amiable Player Characters Against The PW, but rather as an encounter that might turn out badly if they're not careful |
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