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Post by DM williamfredrickson on Mar 21, 2009 18:18:57 GMT -5
Oh, awesome! There's my symbol! The uniforms look great ;D
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Post by DM kelsfar on Mar 21, 2009 19:08:38 GMT -5
Ya looks sweet!
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Mar 21, 2009 19:12:53 GMT -5
Heh, I think I will send the Flaming Fist project over once I get everything I need. I'm still waiting on a couple things however.
Nice job on the symbol.
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Post by DM williamfredrickson on Mar 22, 2009 13:02:32 GMT -5
That does look spiffy  |
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Post by adzling on Mar 22, 2009 13:17:13 GMT -5
wait til i get the glowmap in ;-)
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Post by ansient on Mar 22, 2009 13:54:27 GMT -5
Da-yum, wonder if they'd hire a grunt like Zyil. Probably not since he's more Rambo than Gestapo. Are these guys wizards?
For the curious "Charnag Maelthra" translates to "Deep Dragon"; guess there'll be a lore post about them soon enough. But this is great, Sshamath needs some official law enforcement.
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Post by adzling on Mar 22, 2009 14:30:02 GMT -5
it's coming ansient, and yes the guild will accept non-casters.
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Post by adzling on Mar 22, 2009 15:36:54 GMT -5
The Charnag Maelthra (translation "Deep Dragon/s")
This is the political and military police arm of the Conclave.
It's main role is to enforce the will of the Conclave through administering the day-to-day implementation of Sshamath's "laws" and the Conclave's "edicts". Upon admission they swear an oath to protect the city-state's values and follow the directive of the Conclave whatever their personal beliefs.
In addition they are charged with supporting the Sshamathian Guard in times of crisis to protect the city from dangers, real and perceived. They are often sent out of the city on important errands for the Conclave acting as bodyguards to high-ranking emissaries, to retrieve artifacts or anywhere the Conclave needs a representative. When a high ranking drow needs to be detained or otherwise punished due to a ruling of the Conclave the Charnage Maelthra are sent to collect them.
They are given much latitude in their work as long as they do not deviate from their general mission of protecting the Conclave, the city of Sshamath and ensuring the Conclave's will is carried out.
It is important to note that unlike a police force on the surface (like the flaming fist for example) "justice" is not important to the Conclave nor the Charnag Maelthra. They are tasked with ensuring the smooth functioning of the city and the trade that flows through it, not "upholding" any law. Anything that might threaten this is to be dealt with, quickly.
This means that if they were to encounter a fight or other dangerous display in public they would likely put a stop to it, with minimal violence if possible. They could direct the combatants "to take it outside the city gates", subject them to an on the spot fine or arbitrary imprisonment. This power of summary judgement means that they are feared and avoided by the majority of the citizenry, only those drow holding very high rank are safe from their on-the-spot justice.
Once imprisoned it is up to the Conclave to decide how long the prisoner remains there, the Charnag Maelthra has done their duty simply stopping the incident that could have endangered the city and/or trade.
Repeat offenders are at best simply banished from the city, at worst removed to the Charnage Maelthra's dungeon for a long, slow, lingering death.
Although they have great latitude in how they discharge their duty they tend to act very conservatively, at least in public. Excessive displays of force are in themselves bad for business and so they tend to rely on diplomacy or threats as appropriate. Only when these approaches fail do they fall back on violence. However once engaged they hold little back as it usually means that the offender has not taken the appropriate position of deference to them, and by extension the Conclave. They are not restrained by a normal law officer's view of public safety and respect for the individual. This can make them very dangerous to cross.
As part of the Conclave's views on practitioners of the "Art" they must ensure that all races capable of casting arcane magic remain free and not subject to slavery. This extends to affording them the basic right of being safe from harm when within the city. While it is perfectly fine for a drow to exhibit his racist tendencies towards the other resident races of Sshamath through verbal taunts if they cross the line to physical or magical violence the Charnag Maelthra will get involved. They care little if there was good reason for the attack, they only care that it stops immediately so that business isn't damaged.
This shouldn't be taken to mean that it is possible for a non-drow to continually taunt or embarrass an illythiri without threat of reprisal. All non-drow are, after all, guests in the city. They are resident non-citizens. In such instances the Charnag Maelthra will simply impose a fine on the offender to be paid to the offended party as recompense. This fine is scaled according to the severity of the offence but it typically will not exceed 500 gold. In the event that the offender cannot pay they will be sentenced debtors jail to work off their fine.
Membership is limited to pure-bred illythiri, half-breeds and non-drow are not accepted. Due to the oath of fealty they must swear (and the Conclave's bias) divine casters are barred from joining.
\\this is a first draft of the Charnag Maelthra's charter. I would like to hear any input from the community please!
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Post by DM kelsfar on Mar 25, 2009 16:08:18 GMT -5
OMFG I want that shield on the server!!!! Q'winith Mal'froon would sacrifice 1000 rothe to have it implemented!  |
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Post by broham2 on Mar 25, 2009 18:55:44 GMT -5
Damn man.. good work. Love to see some more of these types of shields.
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Post by adzling on Mar 25, 2009 19:01:35 GMT -5
wont be long before i start taking requests ;-)
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Post by Erulaan D'Anhoor on Mar 25, 2009 19:28:57 GMT -5
hmm what might the pricing be?
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Post by luna on Mar 26, 2009 0:39:56 GMT -5
When are you going to show this supposid crossbow you are going on about on the bioware forums.
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Post by tristanvaneer on Mar 26, 2009 8:14:05 GMT -5
Very nice work Adzling... nice to see someone else diving into the toolset to help out the development team and very nicely done on the designs. Just thought I would pass along what little I have read about Sshamath's guards... a line in the source book that I quoted on the General page describes them as warrior wizards which screams W/F/EK to me. I don't think that all of them would be but most of them certainly, it is a wizards city after all. Keep up the good work that spider silk look is really nice.
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Post by adzling on Mar 26, 2009 8:55:48 GMT -5
luna: the crossbow is waiting on some help from the obsidian forums, getting a model in game is proving to be a lot more tricky than custom skin. As soon as i get it in-game i'll post render here.
tristan: important distinction, Sshamath will continue to have the Sshamathian guard which is more like a military force while the Charnag Maelthra will be more like a military/political police force geared towards ensuring the smooth functioning of the city and the political allegiance of the citizenry (rooting out anti-conclave groups and such).
As such the Charnag Maelthra will admit two types of applicants:
1). Warriors (sargtlin) Min level for admittance is 10.
2). Arcane Casters, preference given to gishes but any arcane caster is acceptable. Min level for admittance is 10.
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