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Post by sinsemilla on May 8, 2009 17:17:22 GMT -5
(IC) - Hello Friends, I can see that my interest has been mentioned. Yes I am interested in helping with the Keep and would be glad to join as a gate warden and help by taking control of soldiers and guard to help out the seekers in their quest, as well as protect the keep.
(OOC) Some of you know already, but I am also part of the Dev Team, but do make time to play as well. I still love the game. I have some ideas that may be helpful in recruiting soldiers as well as to be sure that the balance of gold and XP stays with the PC's. The character that I have for this is presently a Level 12 Fighter/Weaponsmaster of Law/Good.
So you have a bit of background of me personally, I love to RP, I have been involved with Forgotten Realms since back in paper and dice days as well I have played from the Original BG up through MOTB. I am an area dev, professionally I do graphic and Web design as well as own a sucessful pc business with the help of my wife and a business partner.
I do have a couple characters I play, total opposites of each other in all ways but one. I love Fighter classes and know them well.
I have a few other things that could be useful, but we can talk about them in game.
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Post by maecius on May 8, 2009 23:10:14 GMT -5
I am happy to report that there has been a huge upsurge of interest in Candlekeep in the last couple of days.
I think we now have between 8 and 12 players interested in joining our faction, which is not bad at all.
Because we need player leadership, in character and out, to get this burgeoning faction onto its legs, I'm going to be appointing Maximus Angrius (sinsemilla) the Gatewarden of Candlekeep. He has a lot of good ideas, and I think he will be able to develop his branch of the faction quite well.
If you are interested in playing a fighter-type character, a martial monk, or even an eldritch knight with the Candlekeep Guard, he is the man to contact.
Meanwhile, because the person I was thinking of putting in the Guide position is busy with life at the moment, I will put Valerius into the office of Guide. You can come to me, in character or out of character, if you are interested in joining Candlekeep as a scholar of any type (spellcaster, non-martial monk, et cetera). You can also come to me if you want to join Candlekeep as a chanter, at least until we have someone in that office.
Sinsemilla and myself will be organizing our branches, martial and scholarly, and hopefully we'll have a firmer rank-and-promotion system up soon.
I will also be organizing a voting system that will allow the faction to be self-policing. That way you can vote people into or out of the upper-level positions: you could even replace Valerius and Maximus if we're not doing our jobs! That way, I feel, the DMs will only need to get their hands dirty when they want to get them dirty, for quests, events, and the like.
So, though I've noted everyone who is interested in joining, I think our current factioneers at this moment are:
Maximus Angrius (sinsemilla) - Gatewarden Qin Tara (litara) - Acolyte Valenthel Wyndsoul (broham2) - Seeker Valerius (maecius) - Guide
I have run into a few others who are playing "active Candlekeep members," and I'd like to ask them to come forward either in a PM to me or here in this thread, so that we can add you to the roster (which we will create as soon as we have worked out the rank-and-promotion systems).
Those interested in joining up now, however, should feel free to PM me if they are scholars, or sinsemilla if they are warriors; or find us in-game.
We're off to a good start, let's keep it going, Candlekeepers!
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Post by hnefi on May 9, 2009 8:13:53 GMT -5
I have a newly-created sorcerer that's interested in joining. His name is Moldrister Karemen, and is aspiring to be a scholar, among other things. I met Maximus in game, and will be looking for Valerius, to whom I was referred.
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Post by sinsemilla on May 9, 2009 14:19:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the position.
The following is OOC:
I would like to suggest that for the Guard we recruit levels 5 and up, and break up our rankings in the guard by level and time with the guild. I am working on a method of gold compensation for the guard. It may mean it coming out of pocket at times but I believe it can be done.
Of course we will need to set some specific guidelines and some duties, but I like the idea of the Guard escorting seekers as well as any that come to the keep looking for our help.
Also to help on finance of all of this, we could look at having our own PC merchant, someone who can sell what is not needed at the keep or used. We could all kick in for a starting bank and be sure to give any gear we want sold to them. Course these are just some ideas I have, I will see what it will take to get the inn added in, and may even be able to design it myself, if the Big Devs approve it.
I will be posting on the board in game today, notifying of recruitment to the guard.
I will see you all in our new home at the keep!
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Post by maecius on May 10, 2009 3:21:28 GMT -5
Excellent work, Sin; I saw the message on the in-game bulletin board earlier and it looks good.
For his part, Valerius has interviewed two new recruits, Moldrister Karemen and Jack Grimm, and welcomed them both to the Order as acolytes.
Weave Master Exarch Elias Goodmane has also pledged the aid of the Weave Masters to us, should Candlekeep ever require help, so that is certainly another great boon!
Keys: I will try to catch one of the DMs in-game sometime, and, hopefully, get both Valerius and Maximus a number of keys to the Candlekeep Library to hand out to the faction's recruits. As Sir Carnifex said earlier, these keys should only go to faction members. It's up to the DMs and only the DMs to decide whether non-faction members get any access to the library.
On the Inn: I am sure that we would all like to see the Candlekeep Inn up and running, but I will leave that in your hands, Sin, as well as the capable hands of the rest of the developers. My one request might be to throw in one of those card tables that can be found in Feldepost's Inn and in the Helm and Cloak. I was floored when I found out that you could play cards with other PCs, and bet gold on the games!
On Alignment: One issue that came up today was alignment restrictions. Tomar the Black would like to join our Order, but is, under his friendly cover, Chaotic Evil. I am of the opinion that Candlekeep is a neutral institution, valuing intellectual freedom, and eschewing political factionalism. That is to say, I think we should allow evil-aligned characters, so long as they don't harm Candlekeep or its reputation. (Once they do make it clear that they are evil beings, they should be removed, however).
But a counterpoint was offered to me today that, with all of its dangerous knowledge, Candlekeep should utilize Detect Alignment spells and other devices to ensure that it does not recruit evil characters.
My question is, does anyone have any strong opinions on alignment restrictions, and on which side of the fence do they sit?
Roster: Our current roster, though we have several other people eager to join:
SCHOLARS Jack Grimm (naelven) - Acolyte Moldrister Karemen (hnefi) - Acolyte Qin Tara (litara) - Acolyte Valenthel Wyndsoul (broham2) - Seeker Valerius (maecius) - Guide
GUARDS Maximus Angrius (sinsemilla) - Gatewarden
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Post by sinsemilla on May 10, 2009 10:06:00 GMT -5
A good question. I think that lore shows it as an institution interested in gaining knowledge and of a nuetral stand point on alignment. I agree that as long as the evil side of their beliefs do not affect the reputation or the keep and its members, and as long as those characters are not looking to use kowledge gained against anyone in an evil manner, it would be acceptable. We all know that alignment can be shifted and people change it all the time.
I back the safety of the keep and its knowledge, and above all else the safety of the Scholars and Seekers.
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Post by lan on May 10, 2009 13:19:12 GMT -5
Yes, well obviously Im on the side of all alignments to be allowed. Tomar, like all wizards is a knowledge seeker and he knows the tremendous value there is in the great Candlekeep library and would thus do nothing to harm or hamper its function. He is using the knowledge for his own purposes and while doing so he is under his ever so friendly guise and will do nothing to draw suspicious attention to himself. Sure he is evil, but none there need know and I read the lore that the library does indeed accept all seekers of knowledge and holds all forms of knowledge right down to the purist of evil. So anyway, it doesnt say the keep turns away the evil, accept those wishing to do it harm and Tomar is not. And happy to join it's ranks! Guess I would be an acolyte? Seeing as there is an opening for a reader, perhaps Tomar would like to claim this position.
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Post by litara on May 11, 2009 6:05:35 GMT -5
Sorry to have been away for a few days. (Damn that Real Life) Anyway, in my opinion don't think we should start handing out all the fancy ranks yet, as stated earlier. (Otherwise, my Toon might aswell be a scribe, or seeker ) But, what i've read so far, we're well on our way to bringing Candlekeep to life. ;D This is what i've gathered from all the posts so far. Candlekeep Scholars:Character name - Account name - Rank Valerius (Maecius) - Guide Qin Tarra (Litara) - Acolyte Moldrister Karemen (Hnefi) - acolyte Valenthel Wyndsoul (broham2) - Seeker Jack Grimm (??) - Acolyte Tomar the Black (??) - Acolyte ?? (Madcomposer) - Acolyte ?? (Jiszo) - Acolyte Candlekeep GuardsMaximus Angrius (Sinsimilla) - Gatewarden Friends of CandlekeepJared Burns WeaveMaster Exarch Elias Goodmane That means: 10 Candlekeepers + 2 Candlekeep Friends. Is there a reason, by the way, why Valenthel Wyndsoul starts as a seeker and not as an Acolyte?
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Post by broham2 on May 11, 2009 9:51:23 GMT -5
Yes. It was a misunderstanding by maecius, he thought I was already RPing the fact that Valenthel was with CK... he isnt though, it was another character of mine, Baelryn (wizard), that was a CKer. He, however, is on leave to Cormyr on research (until I feel like playing him again someday)..
Either way, Valenthel should be removed from the roster as it was another misunderstanding that I was ready to join... I am not. There are some RP plots in motion that I'd like to wrap up before officially joining, and when I do join I'd like it to be through RP in game. I explained that to maecius IG last night so I am sure he will update it.
I'll be in contact with you all IG.
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Post by sinsemilla on May 11, 2009 13:19:06 GMT -5
We also need to add Isabella to the roster as an officer Trainee, we spoke in game last night and she has agreed to join the guard.
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Post by Zealote on May 11, 2009 13:19:53 GMT -5
You can add there as a friend of Candlekeep Valek Sunborn. He has been on several events with Gorion, since the early days of the PW, and can be considered his friend.
I can speak of several other old characters, but I will leave for their players to do so.
Zeal
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Post by maecius on May 11, 2009 16:03:13 GMT -5
We're doing pretty well, gang. We're no longer just a nascent idea, but an almost fully-functioning faction; and it's only a matter of time before we hammer out the rank-and-promotion structures, and other administrative material.
Here are some brief updates and topics for discussion, though:
Pay Scales: Sin is working out a pay scale for the Candlekeep Guard, so that we can pay our protectors. I think this is a great idea. I am of the opinion, however, that we should not be paying our scholars, and I have, at this time, no intention of putting together a pay table for them.
My justifications: - Access to the Candlekeep libraries is already a huge pay-off, since it normally costs a book worth approximately 10,000 gold pieces to even enter as a guest, and thousands more gold to have scrolls and books copied. Unlimited access to all of this knowledge is any scholar's dreams come true. - You're joining an Order when you join Candlekeep as a scholar. You're given room and board, you're cleaned up after, and you have cheap access to spell components and other on-site supplies, such as paper. - There's a lot of demand to join Candlekeep. You come to Candlekeep, Candlekeep doesn't come to you. Most acolytes probably even pay an exorbitant tuition to be taught there. (Not PCs, though; as most of them already have the foundations of knowledge that the younger acolytes are taught).
We will make room for "research grants," however, to bankroll the projects of Seekers, Scribes, and Readers. We will also have other ways of rewarding you for progressing through the ranks.
Event: We had our first event last night as a faction, though we were not the stars. Some drow visited Candlekeep from the Underdark, and perused the library after donating an adequately priced book. They were watched closely, and their original plan (to steal as much knowledge as they could and then teleport away) was foiled. They were polite during their stay, though Valerius and Isabella followed them every step of the way to watch them, and they left on tense, but good, terms, leaving our Keep a bit wealthier than before.
For RP purposes, as it could come in handy with other DM events, the book they donated was supposedly scribed by one of the Ramset liches.
Conflicts Of Interest/Conflicts Of Loyalties Issue: Is it my opinion that we should not accept people who already belong to other factions, for fear of conflicts in loyalty and interest. Serving Candlekeep is a full-time job, and I think only players (and their characters) who are ready to be dedicated to Candlekeep should be allowed to join. I don't want this faction played off as a "join-to-get-a-key-to-the-library" club. (In the hopes that I can dissuade the curious from simply joining to get a look inside, I'll let it be known that there is nothing to do, to talk to, or to buy in there; you're not missing out on some big secret, just a bunch of bookshelves).
Any strong opinions to the contrary here?
Roster: Our current roster, with updates:
CANDLEKEEP SCHOLARS Jack Grimm (naelven): Acolyte Moldrister Karemen (hnefi): Acolyte Qin Tara (litara): Acolyte Tomar the Black (lan): Acolyte Valerius (maecius): Guide
CANDLEKEEP GUARD Isabella Villame (asmodeakier): Officer-In-Training Maximus Angrius (sinsemilla): Gatewarden
FRIENDS OF CANDLEKEEP Jared Burns Jonas Rokranon Valek Wyndsoul Weave Master Exarch Elias Goodmane
I've not added Madcomposer, nor Jiszo, just yet, because I would like to meet with them in-character first. Or, at the least, I'd like for you both to PM me with more information about your characters.
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Post by rokranon on May 11, 2009 16:29:59 GMT -5
Jonas is currently not in any guild, as the churches are fairly defunct right now. Until he can become a knight in whatever the church of Ilmater's paladin group is, consider him at the disposal of Candlekeep should the need arise. He is more than willing to enlist temporarily and serve under Gatewarden Maximus should the Keep fall under attack or a large expedition be in order. He does not require nor want any pay should his services be rendered.
As Valerius is Jonas' best friend, he will until further notice be acting as a sort of unofficial protector of Valerius, much like a Weave Master's Guardian/Master relationship.
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Post by Zealote on May 11, 2009 16:58:43 GMT -5
WTH? Do I need to kill Valerius IG for you to remember my name?!
Bastard...
Its my signature! My post has the name! Argh!
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Post by rokranon on May 11, 2009 17:02:57 GMT -5
// I wasn't sure where to post this, so if you want it moved let me know.
The following is a letter from Jonas to Valerius.
Valerius,
My friend, I know that you have your hands full with Candlekeep business, but I must ask for your aid. You know of the Ramset plague. You know of the drow shade, Onyxium. It is my belief that the shade actually controls the plague now. He admitted to infecting a woman recently with it after some deduction from Alistaria. This was the worst outbreak yet. A massive rift of darkness formed, and a host of undead attacked a large amassed force. It took a large number of light spells to close the rift, but not before many of us had been beaten and battered.
I ask that you have some of your scholars, and preferably even yourself, look into ways of defeating this shade. You know how easily it heals from wounds, and there must be a weakness we can use to defeat it.
I am sure you remember the spectral child warning us of the drow being in control of the "black pieces" in our game of good and evil, and that has not happened yet. Do not worry yourself over that, but know that I will certainly call upon your aid when the moment comes.
I will let you get back to your organization, my friend. Stay safe, and Ilmater's blessings upon you.
Sincerely,
Jonas Rokranon
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