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Post by whenwizardswar on Sept 7, 2008 19:26:32 GMT -5
I have a very simple suggestion for all of those who have Storm Lord Prestige Class levels.
Not every deity would have a storm lord, most evil ones could understandably have them such as Bhaal and bane and Talos of course, but a lathanderian as a storm lord? Its....well it makes me and others quiver.
To cut down on alot of meta-gameing, I would suggest a bare minimum description for your abiltiies, especially for your shocking weapon abilitie.
First of all, yes the damage will always be electricity, thats why its up to players to temporary suspend reality in the consideration of realsm.
This is just a few simple examples.
Storm Lord of Bane: *Holds his weapon to the heavens, the air around him grows dark, almost hungry, vile energy begins to shimmer along the length of the blade, clearly the blade is not what it seems*
Storm Lord of Bhaal:*Holds weapon towards his opponent, the air is filled with soft, but harsh screams as tendrils of razor sharp energies begin to reach out from the blade, eager to tear into flesh and bone.
Storm Lord of Talos-(This is self explainitory, the look of lightning and the rumble of thunder and so forth).
I have seen alot since i created my preist that people assume that everyone who has a shocking weapon is of talos.
Each deity would undoubtadly bestow different abilites upon thei followers weapons.
I like the RP I have seen player side, but from a DM side, I know that most of those with storm lord levels are not of talos, but everyone assumes they are. I have been personall brutilised (No names mentioned), and meta-gamed just because people see lighting on my weapon they seem to automatically know who and what I am and what i follow just because they have seen other storm lords Pc's use it.
I'm sorry, but my weapons would probably look far different then everyone else who uses storm lord levels and abilities.
I'm not saying you CANT be a storm lord of bane of bhaal or some such and not have lightning on your weapon, but its just a -suggestion- so people dont have any reason to meta-game someones existance.
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Sept 7, 2008 20:39:57 GMT -5
One day a dm was messing with me and started shooting haydel with lightning bolts, ever since then he has attributed his shock weapon to "a man in the clouds crapping thunder" at him. Now whenever he looks up in the clouds and calls the man a "dirty lout" he shoots lightning at him. I know it may not be accurate lore, but it's funny as hell. It's not like their is such a thing as a Halfling weretroll anyways. Fyi his god is selune, so does that mean he shoots moonbeams at people?
*edit- as far as the metagaming, ya I think a stormlord would scare the hell out of most common folk, but as far as the god's go, there are just so many of em. The fact that you pick a diety is also very misleading, it would be perfectly common imo, to pay homeage to multiple dieties. Even preists would still respect other gods. Ya, theres no way someone could look at yer weapon and instantly know that you worship talos.
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Post by Ryokami on Sept 7, 2008 20:42:28 GMT -5
I am glad my DM weapon doesn't give the spear animation LIGHTNING... And yea I have randomly at times gave a little phrase when I do shocking weapon just for kicks, though every 2 mins typing it up is not what I enjoy. I have a feeling that this is not about me though I felt as if I should type in here since I am a StormLord of Bane. and you I would only assume of Talos.  I am not to sure if I seen a StormLord of any good deities though I really have not got into it with Mr. Niles Nilton lolz or Akadi those are the only two I know of. |
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Post by slig on Sept 8, 2008 5:53:25 GMT -5
I disagree. I'm of the opinion that a deity who has no place controlling the weather, in particular winds and storms, has no place giving power to a stormlord, no matter how evil. There is no alignment requirement on the stormlord class and they are described primarily as chaotic destroyers rather than evil dominators, so certainly neither Bane nor Bhaal wouldn't have stormlords. Both Bane and Bhaal are lawful in alignment, ergo their worshippers typically aren't impulsive, wanton and random destroyers.
I suppose any deity who deals with weather and is capable of wielding that weather violently is suitable to have Stormlords. Here's a short list of deities who should probably have Stormlords in my eyes:
Akadi
Anhur
Aerdrie Faenya
Marthammor Duin
Stronmaus (Giant deity)
Talos
Umberlee
Valkur
These deities control some element of weather, so could in theory have a stormlord, but it's kind of unlikely:
Isis
Shaundakul
Sheela Peryroyl
Sorry if I've left anything significant out.
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Post by Ryokami on Sept 8, 2008 6:29:12 GMT -5
I hate you and die in a fire.
Bane will always have Stormlords because I said so.
Shit Period.
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Post by jmbrosendo on Sept 8, 2008 7:11:11 GMT -5
PnP, states you have to have patron deity Talos, and be struck by lightning to qualify for that class, on top of all the other requirements.
Source? Faiths and Pantheons, page 203.
But this is a light rping server, and you dont have to be so extreme. Just wished to clarify some doubts, if there were any.
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Post by Thief Of Navarre on Sept 8, 2008 7:34:14 GMT -5
I disagree. I'm of the opinion that a deity who has no place controlling the weather, in particular winds and storms, has no place giving power to a stormlord, no matter how evil. There is no alignment requirement on the stormlord class and they are described primarily as chaotic destroyers rather than evil dominators, so certainly neither Bane nor Bhaal wouldn't have stormlords. Both Bane and Bhaal are lawful in alignment, ergo their worshippers typically aren't impulsive, wanton and random destroyers. I suppose any deity who deals with weather and is capable of wielding that weather violently is suitable to have Stormlords. Here's a short list of deities who should probably have Stormlords in my eyes: Akadi Anhur Aerdrie Faenya Marthammor Duin Stronmaus (Giant deity) Talos Umberlee Valkur These deities control some element of weather, so could in theory have a stormlord, but it's kind of unlikely: Isis Shaundakul Sheela Peryroyl Sorry if I've left anything significant out. Its not been cleared by a DM but this is the way I see things; any diety who venerates the weather or the seas or is particularly impulsive! I'd love to see a Skald of Valkur smiting people with his shocking abilities; I know its not canon but it does sound cool |
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Post by whenwizardswar on Sept 8, 2008 9:39:18 GMT -5
I disagree. I'm of the opinion that a deity who has no place controlling the weather, in particular winds and storms, has no place giving power to a stormlord, no matter how evil. There is no alignment requirement on the stormlord class and they are described primarily as chaotic destroyers rather than evil dominators, so certainly neither Bane nor Bhaal wouldn't have stormlords. Both Bane and Bhaal are lawful in alignment, ergo their worshippers typically aren't impulsive, wanton and random destroyers. I suppose any deity who deals with weather and is capable of wielding that weather violently is suitable to have Stormlords. Here's a short list of deities who should probably have Stormlords in my eyes: Akadi Anhur Aerdrie Faenya Marthammor Duin Stronmaus (Giant deity) Talos Umberlee Valkur These deities control some element of weather, so could in theory have a stormlord, but it's kind of unlikely: Isis Shaundakul Sheela Peryroyl Sorry if I've left anything significant out. I totally agree, but as was said we are RP light, we have no heavy rules governing Prestige class's. I would like to to see people RP their abilities as a Storm Lord, changeing it appropraitely for their gods at the very minimum since we dont say who can and cant be a storm lord. As it is i see no one RPing their storm lord abilities, they mainly seem to have them for the bonus's and nothing else heh. But, then again its no secret that I am pretty hard core when it comes to RP, so its hard dealing with certian things people are allowed to get away with, but tis just a game after all. |
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Post by atlas on Sept 8, 2008 9:53:17 GMT -5
I think Stormlords should have to worship Talos and Red Dragon Disciples should have to roleplay being the spawn of a Red Dragon with scaly skin and whatnot and more often than not be evil. At the moment everyone and their mother is taking classes like these just for their insanely overpowered abilities.
You might see a different trend when you're being burnt at the stake for being the spawn of evil.
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Sept 8, 2008 10:24:46 GMT -5
I think Stormlords should have to worship Talos and Red Dragon Disciples should have to roleplay being the spawn of a Red Dragon with scaly skin and whatnot and more often than not be evil. At the moment everyone and their mother is taking classes like these just for their insanely overpowered abilities. You might see a different trend when you're being burnt at the stake for being the spawn of evil. RDD is not a dragon spawn, nor is a teifling a half-demon. |
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Post by atlas on Sept 8, 2008 10:29:38 GMT -5
RDD's have a Red Dragon parent somewhere in their ancestry just like Tieflings have a demon ancestor. For Aasimar/Teiflings it's something like eight generations ago.
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Post by slig on Sept 8, 2008 11:40:33 GMT -5
You're right Atlas. Maybe he meant RDD don't look like dragonkin? I mean, they look primarily human with smaller draconic details.
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Post by DM haunted on Oct 8, 2008 8:51:47 GMT -5
I am sorry to disappoint anyone .... Stormlord is a Talos only prc.He bestows the gift upon his most fanatical and devout followers.Pnp =Must worship Talos,must be non-lawful,must survive being struck by lightning.Obsidian screwed this up horribly and why should we continue to keep it that way.
Since there is no restrictions on this yet,I agree that the prc should be used properly with the proper deity.And at least not in a lawful sense.
At least try to follow the dogma of a stormlord in some kind of way.please!!!
Anways,I am an old school fan and now you know how I feel about it.Please RP the idea of a stormlord out and not take it for the cool weapon abilities.
About the metagaming,how the hell would you know what a SL is IC?You wouldn't unless you have sufficient lore.Same with anything else lore related , lore checks please.
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Post by astralwyvern on Oct 9, 2008 2:03:29 GMT -5
I wonder if being indirectly influenced by Talos is a possibility? This is RP lite. How could this be done?
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Post by Raist on Oct 9, 2008 7:08:01 GMT -5
I am sorry to disappoint anyone .... Stormlord is a Talos only prc.He bestows the gift upon his most fanatical and devout followers.Pnp =Must worship Talos,must be non-lawful,must survive being struck by lightning.Obsidian screwed this up horribly and why should we continue to keep it that way. Since there is no restrictions on this yet,I agree that the prc should be used properly with the proper deity.And at least not in a lawful sense. At least try to follow the dogma of a stormlord in some kind of way.please!!! Anways,I am an old school fan and now you know how I feel about it.Please RP the idea of a stormlord out and not take it for the cool weapon abilities. About the metagaming,how the hell would you know what a SL is IC?You wouldn't unless you have sufficient lore.Same with anything else lore related , lore checks please. I agree, well said |
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I am not to sure if I seen a StormLord of any good deities though I really have not got into it with Mr. Niles Nilton lolz or Akadi those are the only two I know of.
