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Post by kjiflrf on Aug 12, 2008 15:54:53 GMT -5
me and yorik dont need any brotherhood cuz i wont let him go there... im evil!!! and he will listen only to me!!!
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Aug 12, 2008 16:18:49 GMT -5
can you post links to some forum threads which you mention? where is info about Brotherhood? i will defenetly never play for a revenge, its really dull, i needs such notes for normal playing of my char (in other case he will be a char with complete amnesia). About the Brotherhood - i hope you understand that one day you can be captured one by one by UD team and prisoned in a cage with hungry spiders? Certanly in a DM quest mode. Ready for that? And i am not Ami - i am Yorik from Bremen, dergar (well...was if chars want be transported from another server) and the reason for me to stop playing shield dwarf and create UD char was cruelty and hunger for PvP killing which i saw in first 15minutes of a gameplay on a server. I will be very suprised if someone from your brotherhood have good alighment - i saw only chaotic evil personalities. Brotherhood behaves as drow patrol imo. www.theswordcoast.proboards89.com/index.cgi?board=faction&action=display&thread=479Yes, they are good aligned, hunting down and killing drow and the like isn't really considered an evil action. You may see it that way, but hell Drow kill each other more than any surfacer does. The brotherhood doesnt go into the underdark raiding drow villages and enlaving them, it's about protectin our land from you.
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Aug 12, 2008 16:20:37 GMT -5
me and yorik dont need any brotherhood cuz i wont let him go there... im evil!!! and he will listen only to me!!! Don't worry, we weren't trying to recruit him. I referenced the brotherhood because one of you two mentioned that we should make a guild called "cutting off drow ears" so that everyone could know we are hostile to you. Well we already have a guild.
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Post by BOGUS on Aug 12, 2008 16:55:33 GMT -5
lol, i have read about Brotherhood. I cant comment your Brotherhood in yor thread, so i will say here - thats not a guild, that's just a PK mob having nothing in common to Faerun setting, lore or whatever. Beeing such square minded is awesome ;-)))) Setting of Faerun have so much guilds, siutable for any insane idea, that there is no reason to create such an childish organization. Creating such guilds is a same mistake as creating Drizzts DoUrdens on a server. I cant take your guild seriusly - in my opinion Brotherhood is just a robbers and morodiers which undecover their dirty deeds under the idea of strugling with evil. You are not even Robin Hoods, because you will mostly attack noobs, i am sure in that. Flaming Fist certanly can close their eyes on your band, but only while you actions doesnt couse real trouble between UD and surface. Soon UD diplomats will put an ultimatum to Baldur's Gate counsil in complete reforming of your bandits group, otherwise there will be a mass raid on a serface and maybe a war between surface and UD, i can assure you "guild" that after it you will be hunted by Flaming Fist as well as you suppose to hunt other races, no goverment in no city will put lives of its citizens in such a risk as war with Underdark because of the bunch of insane chaotic group murdering all over the Sword Coast.
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Aug 12, 2008 17:05:22 GMT -5
lol, i have read about Brotherhood. I cant comment your Brotherhood in yor thread, so i will say here - thats not a guild, that's just a PK mob having nothing in common to Faerun setting, lore or whatever. Beeing such square minded is awesome ;-)))) Setting of Faerun have so much guilds, siutable for any insane idea, that there is no reason to create such an childish organization. Creating such guilds is a same mistake as creating Drizzts DoUrdens on a server. I cant take your guild seriusly - in my opinion Brotherhood is just a robbers and morodiers which undecover their dirty deeds under the idea of strugling with evil. You are not even Robin Hoods, because you will mostly attack noobs, i am sure in that. Flaming Fist certanly can close their eyes on your band, but only while you actions doesnt couse real trouble between UD and surface. Soon UD diplomats will put an ultimatum to Baldur's Gate counsil in complete reforming of your bandits group, otherwise there will be a mass raid on a serface and maybe a war between surface and UD, i can assure you "guild" that after it you will be hunted by Flaming Fist as well as you suppose to hunt other races, no goverment in no city will put lives of its citizens in such a risk as war with Underdark because of the bunch of insane chaotic group murdering all over the Sword Coast. Nah, we don't steal or murder, and we fight evil of any level. Levels don't mean much when it comes to RP, a drow is a drow whether level 2 or 22. As far as war with the underdark, that's pretty much how it is right now. What the brotherhood is doing is perfectly lawful and good by faerun standards. I'm sure groups like this did exsist in Faerun, just because I didnt steal a name or "copy-paste" lore doesn't mean they do not fit. *edit* oh yeah and I'm really sure the drow in the underdark are shaking in their boots and readying diplomats to go to the surface because of a racist Halfling and Dwarf team. While the idea of it would make me quite proud, it is a HUGE stretch.
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Post by Zealote on Aug 12, 2008 17:16:25 GMT -5
I like the initiative, and i applaud the RP that started the guild. My char would never join such group, but as a player, i must agree with shawn. Its quite original. -Raffael
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Aug 12, 2008 17:25:26 GMT -5
I like the initiative, and i applaud the RP that started the guild. My char would never join such group, but as a player, i must agree with shawn. Its quite original. -Raffael Thanks, tho it was Gimli's idea to make a guild. Most of us have played on other servers and to me the sad part is a guild like this IS rare. Most servers end up being a bagillion+2 driizt wannabees running around with "open minded" adventurers, or a bunch of evil pc's with no real opposition. I like playing evil PC's but I do find it quite boring when everyone is ok with my IC actions. It's good to see players make an attempt to RP the lore and discriminate against these things. To me, it really gives the server a real unique/fun feel to it, like you're actually in Faerun.
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Post by BOGUS on Aug 12, 2008 17:37:07 GMT -5
-Outlook- This is how the Brotherhood veiws certain races and classes. Drow- Hate with extreme prejudice. Kill them on sight or drive them away or get help to destroy them. Druegar- Hate with extreme prejudice. Kill them on sight or drive them away or get help to destroy them. drow, druegar - kill on sight, about what RP you talking??? Letter to Baldurs' Gate goverment can be given threw Guild of Underdark Gids (cant find the right word), and there is no war between UD and Baldur's Gate at the moment, anyway, doesnt matter really, anyone have right to make allianses, companyes, bands, just dont called it a Guild. Guilds must be only from lore and that must have been set in stone, or we will have dozens such Brotherhoods, Sisterhoods, Grandpapashoods Guilds in a very short time and will become Lineage II. Total idea is this - now everyone knows who are racists on a server, firstly i thought that you represent the position off all surface players, now i understand that just overcame your tiny group and made a false opinion about the whole server.
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Post by shawnystyle77 on Aug 12, 2008 17:45:52 GMT -5
-Outlook- This is how the Brotherhood veiws certain races and classes. Drow- Hate with extreme prejudice. Kill them on sight or drive them away or get help to destroy them. Druegar- Hate with extreme prejudice. Kill them on sight or drive them away or get help to destroy them. drow, druegar - kill on sight, about what RP you talking??? Letter to Baldurs' Gate goverment can be given threw Guild of Underdark Gids (cant find the right word), and there is no war between UD and Baldur's Gate at the moment, anyway, doesnt matter really, anyone have right to make allianses, companyes, bands, just dont called it a Guild. Guilds must be only from lore and that must have been set in stone, or we will have dozens such Brotherhoods, Sisterhoods, Grandpapashoods Guilds in a very short time and will become Lineage II. Total idea is this - now everyone knows who are racists on a server, firstly i thought that you represent the position off all surface players, now i understand that just overcame your tiny group and made a false opinion about the whole server. Yes our stance is to kill a drow on sight, to us you are a bugbear or a gnoll who can talk. Don't get mad, I didnt tell you to play a drow. Besides that I didn't attack you without RP, even though it would be justified. Guild, faction or formal group, the title doesnt matter, it's just a few players roleplaying racial tension. And yes this is the common view of surfacers, maybe not players but definitely surfacers. And yes you do know OOC who the members are, IC you would still have no idea, to anyone we meet, we are just another surfacer who hates the UD races. *edit- I do use the word "guild" loosely, as I have always called groups guilds. In this setting, no the brotherhood is not a guild, just a group, they have no political power, influence or authority. Just so there is no confusion and no need to get bent out of shape.* **edit- An yes while our view of UD is KOS, that is an RP post and shows our outlook towards races, ingame it doesnt translate into killing a drow the second you see them, though conflict is highly probable**
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Post by Zealote on Aug 12, 2008 17:55:34 GMT -5
Man u really are angry... Like Ice would say: ''Cheer up mate!'' I dont think that ALL the guilds NEEDs to be ''copy/paste'' from FR lore. The server is dynamic, its not a book. Besides, as the name says, its a brotherhood, not a guild. The post is just to increase the RP. Anyone can start a group. I play with only one char, and he would never join such group. But i cannot ''cut'' them off, just because its make believe. The way i see it, its just a group, like any other u can form with your friends to enjoy some adventure. Or when u play PnP D&D, ur characters just go alone, each representing their guild directly from FR lore? If things were like that, adventurers would never form any group. Just keep to themselves and their guild. You need to think like ur playing PnP D&D. Would characters with similar ideas and ideals not form a group? Would they not set rules for their behavior? Would they not go adventuring together? Reading your posts, i think you are a experienced player, and you are letting a personal issue affect ur judgment. Im sorry i my post offend you. It is not my intention, far from it. Its merely my opinion.
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Post by BOGUS on Aug 12, 2008 18:03:38 GMT -5
oh no, i am not getting mad, or angry, not at all fellows, i am just really suprised that with such love for hating someone and such a hunger to kill them on sight you have choose surface races, you coul have make Underdark really dangerous and underdarkable place if your group were playing drow and druegars instead of dwarf and haflings, which are more likely to be explorers of a rich world of Abeir Toril rather then Death Patrols.
About ooc and ic - on a new server host we all will start a new life, i suppose, and i really dont know now whom i will play, but i'll see you there anyway. ;-)))))))
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Post by Zealote on Aug 12, 2008 18:13:42 GMT -5
Just so you know, i play Sir Valek Sunborn, and he has never killed anyone on this server. I usually run away from PvP. The only thing i did was sumon a Fist soldier, controled by a DM, to deal with one drow and a dwarf. Nothing else. In fact, i COULD kill a great deal of UD char with my char. But a i never did. Its just bad RP for a paladin to attack on sight(except for those cursed undeads! ) When i said i was suportive to the group shawn and bunny started, i was doing so OOC. If you didnt read my previous posts, i said the my char would never joing such group. This BS is really starting to annoy me. Go on and play ur UD char bro. Valek will not attack u as i said before. But be wise and a good RPer, and disguise urself while near by surfacers. Put a helmet on for Tyr's sake.
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Post by kjiflrf on Aug 12, 2008 18:17:09 GMT -5
as I know drow lore, they comparing surface races with goblins or gnolls and surface races comparing drow with a monsters... but not with goblins... with illthids and beholders mb... for humans drow = monster, for drow human = animal... as i know...
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Post by kjiflrf on Aug 12, 2008 18:18:21 GMT -5
as I know drow lore, they comparing surface races with goblins or gnolls and surface races comparing drow with a monsters... but not with goblins... with illthids and beholders mb... for humans drow = monster, for drow human = animal... as i know... imho, when players going aganst game's lore for compare drow with goblins that call rasism... u can compare drow with monster and atatk us on sight cuz of it... but goblin... its realy... aganst lore =) or mb u're totaly sick guild
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Post by Zealote on Aug 12, 2008 18:30:54 GMT -5
Again, NOT PART OF THE GUILD. Second: Are you really trying to comprehend a mind and the motivations of a char with ooc lore? Man, you KNOW this game. Dont do this. You can show all the lore you want ooc. But IC, what really matters is the lore of that char. Haydel is a dumb halfling. Didnt you realise that already? You will need to show him that UD races are not like he think IG, not try to teach the player how to play. You can either kill him with a UD char (yes u can become powerful, shawn have a drow lvl 22, and she ALWAYS keeps her helm on). Or you can just try to mess with his mind, playing a really nice drow(with a helmet) and make him feel sorry for the things he has done. There is a million ways to overcome this hostility. But ooc is not one of them.
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