Issues with ALL quests

[lan]

ok, i posted a thread about issues with Maltz quest. Now it appears to be with every quest. Something is seriously bugged, which sucks because Im not a huge fan of grinding and these quests were what helped my character level up the most and just as important helped get gold. Now they dont work and everyone else can use these quests to help their char with both xp and gold but me

So, here is the issue, as i stated with maltz my journal said i need to return his stock which i didnt have. ok ill sort it out with the suggestios in the other thread. Now i go to the two halflings in the goblin cave, strike up a convo to help them find their key. GREAT, this quest still works! I go find thier kep, SWEET, it definatly works, k good ill just go give them thier key. Go to show them thier key, click to start convo and what happens? It starts from the beginning and goes through their speal again. I look in my inventory and all the sudden the key dissapears!!

Also i should mention the Malts quest no longer appears in my journal but yet he still isnt offering the quest to me anymore.

now of to Beregost, talk to buddy about finding Radger, go off looking and i find not one but two Radgers!?? I then find I can't initiate dialogue/quest update with eather, they just sit there. Go back to buddy(forget his name), doesnt ask me about how the search is going, but starts off again how he lost his badger!!

So all my quests are f'd up. This blows bigtime, as grinding is horridly boring and horridly long and its a rare chance i get into an event where i can get xp. Im also afraid as i level up and go on to new areas the new questes will be screwed up as well...

Can please somone fix this, a dm perhaps or dev or something? please please please!


lol, just noticed, everytime i talk to Jaspen another badger gets added to the spot. there are 4 there now...




Oh i should mention, Jorn is the only quest that is working for some reason... probably because there arn't multiple triggers...

[CrispyWalrus]

Sometimes the journal is "stuck" for me -- for lack of a better description. I can talk to the quest givers but nothing is added to my journal and a second attempt just starts the dialog from the beginning as you describe. In most cases a relog fixes it for me. Have you tried relogging the same session?

[lan]

Yes, that is definatly not the problem. this has been going on for the past 4 or 5 days now. Logging in and out many many times, same thing every time.

I just found out about the troll hide quest, just today. went and got my 12 hides, and he wont take em. It's as if i have none and i have to reply "no dont have any yet, ill og look again..."

please help!

[mute83]

of what i know, the troll Q has been broken for a long time. it was changed, so you can sell the troll hides, gives about 20-30g a piece

[inquizitor]

I found multiple jeremies when I went to find him the other day.

[lan]

Just logged in again, still the same..

Is there anyway a DM can reset all my quests or somehow reset my character?

EDIT
HAH! misadventures of Malcom and Matty WORKED!!!! YAY!! off to try some others now! woooohoooo

[horredtheplague]

I'm only speculating from the outside, but my guess is that the quests are set up at least in part as strictly-dependent on journal entries, for advancement. These, of course, erase on any reset. Now, I'm also guessing there is some persistent variable usage (w/ a SQL-Lite or MySQL database) involved in at least some quests. These, of course, do not change from a reset---even from a server crash. The combination of the two in a single quest could definitely cause the quest issues I've personally experienced and are reported here.

If my speculations above are correct, I propose that persistent variables should become the governing agent in quests. Journal entries should only advance as the persistents are advanced. That would mean conversations would check only the persistents on conditional tabs, but would set both journal and persistents on actions tab.

Now, doing this would raise another issue. As persistents are--well, persistent. This would mean only one quest per customer, which in most cases is probably not desired. Not so, if you also are using a timestamp with the quest. You could use the timestamp to govern the amount of quests a particular PC could do. Once a day, once a week, as often as they want to--all options are possible. Fairly certain you would need the nwnx-time plugin running and imported to do this (if not there already), so you have necessary functions to check real time in scripts.

Now, I'm a pretty busy fellow in the modding world these days (c.f. roguedao.com), but if this sounds appealing to the team perhaps I can squeeze in a little bit of time and help out w/ it. Let me know.

[lan]

I would love for u to do this. This has been extremely annoying. hopefully a Dev actually reads this and gives u a shout