thegnomeherder
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Bhaal, the Lord of Gettin' sum
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Post by thegnomeherder on Feb 10, 2009 22:35:55 GMT -5
So I've noticed that literally everyone and everything is pick pocketable. Even Myrkul and Mystra(only to see if I could) As well as Jorn's Chickens.
This PP script, when I PP from characters (I only seem to ever be able to get a max of 15g) Do they even lose that? Also I've never gotten anything but gold.
....Its so..pointless!!
(P.S. I haven't been abusing the PP)
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Post by Zealote on Feb 10, 2009 22:41:37 GMT -5
Least I tested, when I was a active DM, the same script was working and people could steal up to 40 gp and potions, scrolls, arrows, all sort of light weight stuff. Dont know if its changed.
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Post by Iceshard on Feb 10, 2009 22:41:40 GMT -5
We took the PP script and made it so you could never grab anything that weighed 2lbs or more. This prevented weapons, armors and most other things from being stolen that logically wouldnt. I have stolen, and been picked all sorts of things from gold, to gems, to entire stacks of bandages.. so you can get some good things, but your not pulling any full sets of armor out of someones pocket -Ice
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Post by Erulaan D'Anhoor on Feb 10, 2009 23:03:45 GMT -5
nicely done with the 2 lb limit
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Post by broham2 on Feb 11, 2009 0:27:35 GMT -5
You know, I have noticed a change lately (*whistles innocently*) and I am not sure if this is what gnomeherder means or not.. but the 'take' on a per-PP attempt has gone waaaaay down. I have fairly high SoH, and before I was getting 25-45gp or so maybe? but now I am getting like 3gp and it says "you successfully pilfered a small amount of gold" or some such.. I dont think it was there before. If so, I never noticed it.
I haven't PP'd anything worthwhile in a few weeks.
I asked about the change once but I haven't heard definitely from Dev-side if it was changed.
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Feb 11, 2009 0:44:40 GMT -5
If you think about it though a pickpocket isn't likely to get much. Pickpockets are petty thieves, not ones that come off with a big haul. Small rewards are part of the RP. Now I dare you to try PP without HIPS like MINE does.
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Post by caveman282 on Feb 11, 2009 10:04:32 GMT -5
While I agree that you shouldn't be getting RICH off pp skill I think only gold should be able to be PPed.
Me and Nahum did a test a while back seeing as His Spot is pretty high. SoH skill is opposed by spot. It seems that no matter if the victim has high spot or not you can still get away with a high percentage of your SoH. So while the take has been lowered you can almost always get away with it. The good part is the DMs see who you are PPing and see how much and what you take. It was funny cause when Me and Nahum were doin the test Haunted sent me a tell and said i was robbing him blind and I just loled.
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Post by broham2 on Feb 11, 2009 10:44:20 GMT -5
If you think about it though a pickpocket isn't likely to get much. Pickpockets are petty thieves, not ones that come off with a big haul. Small rewards are part of the RP. Now I dare you to try PP without HIPS like MINE does. I PP without HiPS quite frequently actually. And someone with a very high SOH shouldnt be limited to 5gp. Good pickpockets (in real life) are able to target items that they know to be there.. I don't see how it would be any different (if not more liberal) in a fantasy setting. If there is a wand poking out of a pack, or a gold pouch attached to the belt (of 40gp or whatever) I dont think its unrealistic to be able to bump-and-grab it.
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thegnomeherder
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Post by thegnomeherder on Feb 11, 2009 11:19:01 GMT -5
If you think about it though a pickpocket isn't likely to get much. Pickpockets are petty thieves, not ones that come off with a big haul. Small rewards are part of the RP. Now I dare you to try PP without HIPS like MINE does. Actually if you've ever been next to Saradur Darkbough and he *bumps into you* *Trips over your* *Brushes past you* *runs into you on purpose* Chances are- you've been pick pocketed xD Usually I'll apologize and walk away going *Chuckles and drops a few coins into his pouch*
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thegnomeherder
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Post by thegnomeherder on Feb 11, 2009 11:20:39 GMT -5
You know, I have noticed a change lately (*whistles innocently*) and I am not sure if this is what gnomeherder means or not.. but the 'take' on a per-PP attempt has gone waaaaay down. I have fairly high SoH, and before I was getting 25-45gp or so maybe? but now I am getting like 3gp and it says "you successfully pilfered a small amount of gold" or some such.. I dont think it was there before. If so, I never noticed it. I haven't PP'd anything worthwhile in a few weeks. I asked about the change once but I haven't heard definitely from Dev-side if it was changed. This is excactly what I mean! It says Pilfered a small amount, and you get like 1-15g and due to the fact I can pick pocket a chicken 5 times and get 1-15g each time, Do the people I'm pick pocketing actually lose the gold? Or does the script just give me money?
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Post by DM bolverkin on Feb 11, 2009 11:34:49 GMT -5
Why do chickens have gold anyway?
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Post by broham2 on Feb 11, 2009 11:38:38 GMT -5
Exactly. Something has changed recently, and I dont know if this change was intended. It seems as if its just an arbitrary amount of gold PP'able from just about ANYthing.
Not good.
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Post by Iceshard on Feb 11, 2009 11:48:15 GMT -5
*Pick pockets a wooden plank*
OOOO 15 gold!...
*looks to a statue*
I bet you have gold to!
lol.. yeah sounds like there is a new script and if you can PP anything, chances are the gold doesnt even come out of the persons inventory anymore. -Ice
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Post by caveman282 on Feb 11, 2009 11:56:06 GMT -5
The victim does lose gold. This was somthing that me and nahum checked when we did our lil test. I Pilfered a total of 72 gold during our experiment. This was done about a week ago if i remeber right.
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Post by drachii on Feb 11, 2009 12:00:10 GMT -5
You sure? I've been picked by Spry and actually made a profit of about 30 gold >.>
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