Gene pool aint too deep...

[Erulaan D'Anhoor]

This is all my opinion, so take it for what its worth. No slight toward any current players intended. Every player here is valuable. More so than they may realize.

I am seeing a trend that I find troubling.

To many players are spreading themselves to thin with to many alts playing in to many guilds and groups.

This dilution of talent is not good for this PW. I would prefer players stick with one guild or group, and not have multiple characters crossing all sorts of boundaries.

We have had the metagaming discussion, and I think everyone agreed that its hard to separate whats going on when you have more than one affiliation with more than one character.

My biggest fear is that we are falsely propping up guilds and groups with alts. This is not sustainable for the long haul, and I fear many groups and guilds will fizzle out due to players being constantly distracted by the newest group.

Take the Orc clan. A great idea with loads of potential. The problem I see is many of the "Usual Suspects" jumping on board at the chance to create a fun and interesting character, at the expense of their previous commitments.

Guild organizers need to be more vigilant in selecting members in the hopes of avoiding multiple characters from the same player joining multiple groups.

We are beginning to see a playerbase that can support this, but it is going to take restraint by the "old Guard" to limit themselves.

It is no longer necessary, and in fact hurtful, for players to spread themselves around in order to have a show of multiple groups for RP.

Please folks, find a niche and settle in for the long haul. We will all benefit greatly if you do.

Flame and discuss as appropriate

[adzling]

props to you erulaan for bringing this up, i concur 100%.

[DM haunted]

I don't think any in my faction are affiliated elsewhere.I try to target newer players,which I have been doing.Unfortunately,there are a few players I have to deny entry to for my faction,because they are in another faction.I have a large group of newer folks that havent been added to the roster yet due to the fact of them reaching level 5 and taking the "test"

[Tiefling]

I disagree. ;D

Playing with alternative characters is a good thing. You cannot always find your high level buddies to play with, or low level characters more interested in gossiping than gaining their first level. Thus, with alternative characters you can meet new people, and have that low level fun. Crawling through the dungeon with the party tends be more fun than just babysitting the party.

And you should remember how one's character cannot just join just any guild. There are requirements, if not ones based on in-game requirements, then at least those of role-playing. Paladins rarely tend to be members of the thieves guild. (Unless the guild is based on family blood-line and due to some stereotypical fuzz, a young member of the family is raised as a holy-warrior byeond the family's reach.)

Sometimes, the goody-two-shoes face behind the screen cannot resist the urge to summon a horde of undead to attack the small town south. To do that, he might be forced to act out of character. But there still remains the more common option of having alternative character to do such things. Little change once in a while can refresh the over-all role-playing when it starts to feel like the same-old, same-old.

We also have to face the fact that the guilds will never have the same amount of Dungeon-Master attention 24/7, the amount of attention flows like the river styx. Thus instead of being a stick stuck on the mud, why not be where the action is? There can never be too many decent role-players in events. Wait, I'll take that one back, too many players can crash the game. But I'm sure you got the right idea, didn't you?

Of course Meta-Gaming can turn out to be rather ugly deal, ruin some plans. Yet that is just the price you have to be ready to pay. People cannot win everyday, Fist cannot burn guild houses all the time and the Thieves cannot bribe the Fist all the time. Okay, some rat just ratted out - meta-game-role-played - the plan. Swallow the bitter failure and act adult, thus get back to the drawing board and beat them next time.


But, I do agree that those who do not have lot of hours to be spend playing this game perhaps should focus on just one or two characters. While those who play many hours on weekly basis are left to do as they please.

Goodnight.

[adzling]

well the issue i believe erulaan pointed out wasn't people having ALTS.
It was people who have ALTS in almost every guild of note thus resulting in the same people fighting themselves that I think he was referring to.

[Erulaan D'Anhoor]

Yes, what Adzling said.

Alts are fine, and needed for a break most of the time...its just the multiple guilds that I am afraid is going to cause harm to this server.......

again, just my opinion, but it bugs me so much I felt compelled to share my view.

[DM Sir Carnifex]

Of course, being a DM and knowing everything, I'm allowed to have one in every guild. ;D

My honest opinion is that I vehemently disagree with the original poster. We are here to have fun and not impose a thousand restrictions on players. I'm willing to take the chance on meta-gaming because what does happen, I believe, will be a small price to pay for all the extra fun that being involved in multiple guilds brings.

[shorn]

I tried, and no offense to anyone whatsoever, but I am actually prevented from following in my normal storyline, and my guilds storyline, most of the time, including guild related events.

So I have been forced to switch from alt to alt trying to find one that I can stand playing in place of my main, as Im sure you know from conversing with me Erulaan. Its been fairly unsuccessful, as Im sure a few of you have noticed.

Its quite honestly left me having to try and find something to take the place of what I would rather be doing...hopefully that will change soon, but until them, it would seem im guilty as charged .

[Erulaan D'Anhoor]

I am not looking for an official change, or position for the server.

I am just trying to make a point.

[DM mithari]

If it makes you feel better, you have MY full agreement.

[scythe]

I like his post too allthough I am pretty new anyways and can't tell how I would feel other several months or years;).

It does seem a good Idea to focus on one char/guild I myself caught myself so often switching chars back and forth in NWN 1 for instance that I never finished the game I think because I got bored of playing the same part over and over again;)

Guess it's quiet good at least for me to find one or maybe two chars that I like alot and to keep playing with them;).

But that is just me.

Nice thread

[tristanvaneer]

I have seen this exact thing ruin a number of really strong guilds. I understand both sides of this however and if done in moderation I think it can be handled well. But there is always something given up to play another character; time, interest, whatever... I would beseech each of you to concentrate on the guild that you feel the greatest loyalty to and play out your characters role till its conclusion or until a point where they are able to go into hibernation.

[caveman282]

It depends on the person behind the keyboard.

Some like the lower lvls and like the change of pace a lot. Besided every guild needs its canon fodder.

Some players like to be come well known so they will stick with one char most of the time with an alt on the side.

Most people can keep IC information to themself and wont meta game , but then again you inevitably get the one who can't.

[borton]

well till we get lots players i think we need to be in a few guilds though i do agree some what ter my main is in the druid guild and borton in the fist so iam not to spread out here. when we can get the population base build up i think we need to limit the number of guilds the players can be in.

borton