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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 10:54:02 GMT -5
From what I heard and read here in the forum, Sshamath is supposed to be a major drow city run by wizards and also a trade city that gets visitors from the surface on ocasion. I also saw and post it myself, some suggestions like, special drow items, powerful items for the UD and all. I would like to make that suggestion again for the time the UD will be opened for surfacers that have the power and courage to get down there. As I said before, drow items are supposed to be stronger than surface items, just like drows are stronger then any surface race. If, somehow, we could have some 'special' items added there later, we could have a reason for surfacers risk the trip down there for Trade, as the city is originally percieved as. If the items were the same, the trip would not be worthy. And we could have those special drow items that turn to dust when hit by sunlight and some other kinky stuff, not overpowered, but different from the surface items, to encourage brave adventurers to travel there. But that is only a dream for the time the passage will be open. Not for now. What do you guys think?
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Post by broham2 on Jan 15, 2009 11:01:30 GMT -5
I like the idea of having items only available on one side top/bottom.. I think that there should be items on the surface not available in the UD as well.. it would open up some good RP between the UD races and the shadier folk on the surface.. doing actual trade, etc.
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Post by adzling on Jan 15, 2009 11:16:24 GMT -5
yes there is in fact a human ghetto in sshamath (humans, or as the drow call them rivvil, can not be citizens), human adventurers are often available for hire to do the tasks that are beneath drow, and the more capable human wizards are sometimes hired by drow schools of magic as retainers (they have no real power themselves).
the idea of drow magic items that decay in the sunlight is nice, i wonder how it could be implemented but that's not my problem har.
It's also worth noting that trade is everything to sshamath, the bazaar in sshamath is meant to be one of the best (if not THE best) for acquiring rare and powerful magic items (at insane prices of course).
If you decide to come down to sshamath i suggest your read up in the "laws" of sshamath thread to understand what you will be getting into.
Even darthiir (the hated surface elf cousins of drow) are occasionally seen in sshamath, that's how liberal the conclave is.
However there is one very important caveat to this: Even the most powerful, epic level human or darthiir will be treated as scum by the local drow population. So if you are human (or worse elf) coming down to Sshamath expect to be bullied, talked down to and generally treated like crap. And if you dare to respond in anything but the most deferential manner the city guard will take your epic toon and hang him from a high pole to die a long agonizing death. As a non-drow you are not and could never be a citizen and you should act accordingly even if you approached by a level 1 drow.
And if your an elf, i would suggest you think twice about it as it's likely you'll easily find yourself on the wrong side of some elf-hating drow (like any Lolthian) at which point your basically so much hamburger (yes even your uber epic elf toon will get squashed like a bug by the conclave).
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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 13:06:23 GMT -5
Alright, off-topic real quick:
Why does adzling keep getting smites?
I dont see any rudeness or flaming on his posts.
Im not defending the guy, far from it, just want to understand the why.
I have a lot if different ideals then him, we have traded posts with different arguments but all in a civil manner. Whos the one being so offended to smite the guy at every turn?
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Post by DM Cephas on Jan 15, 2009 13:44:37 GMT -5
Alright, off-topic real quick: Why does adzling keep getting smites? I dont see any rudeness or flaming on his posts. Im not defending the guy, far from it, just want to understand the why. I have a lot if different ideals then him, we have traded posts with different arguments but all in a civil manner. Whos the one being so offended to smite the guy at every turn? Zeal, I was thinking the same thing. I have a pretty good idea who it is though. Some people have bitterness issues  |
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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 14:09:57 GMT -5
That is precisely why I suggested that the smite must be given by two different members to change the karma status. That way the karma would reflect the feeling of the comunity, instead of a single mind that may be suffering the inluence of humor, bitterness, revenge and whatever causes people to smite someone. The karma should reflect the way people see that person. If one person can smite another to oblivion, the comunity view is not being expressed. But the view of the itchy finger member.
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Post by adzling on Jan 15, 2009 14:15:36 GMT -5
or the person who either is:
1). unable to properly describe their argument and therefore feels compelled to smite instead of discuss.
or
2). has no reasonable or rational leg to stand on (their argument is flawed) and so instead resorts to childish smiting instead of engaging in civil discourse.
which is why i only smite when someone flames me.
and so far that's only happened once in these forums.
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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 14:22:11 GMT -5
From what I heard and read here in the forum, Sshamath is supposed to be a major drow city run by wizards and also a trade city that gets visitors from the surface on ocasion. I also saw and post it myself, some suggestions like, special drow items, powerful items for the UD and all. I would like to make that suggestion again for the time the UD will be opened for surfacers that have the power and courage to get down there. As I said before, drow items are supposed to be stronger than surface items, just like drows are stronger then any surface race. If, somehow, we could have some 'special' items added there later, we could have a reason for surfacers risk the trip down there for Trade, as the city is originally percieved as. If the items were the same, the trip would not be worthy. And we could have those special drow items that turn to dust when hit by sunlight and some other kinky stuff, not overpowered, but different from the surface items, to encourage brave adventurers to travel there. But that is only a dream for the time the passage will be open. Not for now. What do you guys think? Now back on topic. Discuss. |
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Jan 15, 2009 14:23:15 GMT -5
Well, Adzling, I suspect the outspoken manner in which you present your ideas and opinions probably rubs on some the wrong way. However, my view in this regard is that when someone is just stating an idea or opinion, there is no reason to smite, even if one disagrees with that person. Keep voicing your ideas because even if they are not implemented, they sure won't be if they aren't mentioned.
And that goes for everybody!
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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 14:35:58 GMT -5
Well, Adzling, I suspect the outspoken manner in which you present your ideas and opinions probably rubs on some the wrong way. However, my view in this regard is that when someone is just stating an idea or opinion, there is no reason to smite, even if one disagrees with that person. Keep voicing your ideas because even if they are not implemented, they sure won't be if they aren't mentioned. And that goes for everybody! Correctomundo If you check the threads about items to spot hips and about the CR you will see several posts opposing each other that adzling and I posted. Not even once the smite button was used. People with brains use brains, not fingers to make a point. The only time I use that is to smite people that are rude and/or offensive in a direct manner to someone else. BACK TO TOPIC! |
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Post by highwayman on Jan 15, 2009 14:51:24 GMT -5
I'm guilty for three smites when adz had just joined. His posts to me appeared more of demands rather than suggestions, and because he wasn't happy with his former server everyone else who didn't share his hard stance on rp were invited to go to tfr. (in not so many words) But now in hindsight, judging from the amount of material he's written and the lore he knows I'm reserving the smite for jerks only. I'll deal with him even if I think his ideas are sometimes insane. sorry off topic- |
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Post by Zealote on Jan 15, 2009 14:54:11 GMT -5
Alright, its cool. Im not a priest though. Dont need to confess.  |
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