About complaining.

[DEV Jlf2n]

Its getting old. Maybe its my fault for asking so many opinions on how things should work. But lately every thread is an argument about this or that.

Not everything is going to be perfect. Not everything is going to be exactly how you want it. Thats life.

A great majority of us really like this place and have a good time. A few of us complain about anything that happens. If you aren't having a good time and find your every other post a complaint, there are a good number of other PWs to choose from.

[broham2]

Word.

I apologize if my complaining about complainers only adds to it, I'll shut my hole now.

[DEV Jlf2n]

Heh, don't get me wrong. I love ideas and feedback, but dang all the complaining from just a handful of people. It does nothing good for the community.

[adzling]

haha go look at the tfr boards.

[DM Cephas]

I propose a day in the month where everyone has a cease fire and all we do is either not post or give a pat on the back for the hardworking staff of this world. It's pretty demoralizing for the devs to hear the rantings/complaints/criticisms after so much work is done to make this place a great place. They aren't paid to do this and it's all a labor of love so let's give some love back in return. It's easy to not hear the pats in the back in the din of complaints and arguments.

I propose the first day of the month to be "No complaints" day in honor of the admin and his hardworking staff! All criticisms, complaints, and rants on that day will be deleted. ;D

[luna]

Jan 6, 2009 15:49:59 GMT -5 DEV Jlf2n said:

Heh, don't get me wrong. I love ideas and feedback, but dang all the complaining from just a handful of people. It does nothing good for the community.

Also, all staff here volunteer their time weather it's DM'ing, building, maintinging the server, or other duties.

Having to listen to the same constant complaints over and over again tends to demotivate staff, and in some cases it drives good staff away.

[EDIT: Whoa.. I think I wrote this at the same time as DM Cephas' post above. Really I didn't plagerize him! We must think alike ]

Maybe I'm off base and Jlf2n can correct me if I'm wrong, but if you want to argue about a specific topic like persistant spell, or why my thief has no power compared to a wizard, why I need +5 gear, open a new topic with an appropriate title for what you want to debate.
Perhaps add a poll as well so other players can vote on your idea.

But stop hijacking idea threads and twisting them back into the same few arguements.

[DEV Jlf2n]

Jan 6, 2009 15:59:49 GMT -5 adzling said:

haha go look at the tfr boards.

I know Hari. Perhaps I should get a list of all the people he has banned and add it to mine.


j/k....or am I?

[raenir]

my posts in concern are only because I like Baldur's Gate and take an active interest as any player should in the direction it goes, I post because I deeply care for the server and deeply enjoy it. I apologize if any of my posts seemed overly critical or seemed like complaints or unwanted commentary.

[spooky]

I agree ... complaining is easy ... saying something positive seems to be hard.

So here i go

I have played on this server for ... mm maybe a week, from the beginning i noticed how well the areas are designed and i believe it took quite some time to make them look as good as they do. Every time i get on a new map i take time to run it around ( yes i am looking for hidden transitions ;D ). Every time i adore the scene that i see and i haven't seen that many maps yet.

So far i have been able to take part on one event ... i think it was ran by Iceshard and i enjoyed it a lot. I used to play and dm on a server where leveling was made extremely hard and during events there were a lot of skill checks, sadly the server was so far modified from the normal nwn2 that it drove players away.

I want give pat on back to every member of staff ( you know who you are and this place would not be what it is without you ) and i want to give pat on back for the players who have gave me warm greeting as a new player.

aaaand i prolly should have posted this to kudos thread ..

[loudent2]

I don't know, I think discussions can come across as complaints but they're just that: Discussions. Especially considering that this is Beta I think it's probably healthy to hash these things now, so when the question comes up in live you can say "We worked this out during the beta and and this is what we determined to be best <for whatever reason>" and put it to bed.

[adzling]

haha jlf2n!

actually it's not a bad idea as it takes a lot to get banned from tfr and if you do man you really deserved it.

The dms over there have it hard man, from their comments (and my experience) it's like running herd over a group of over-caffeinated children. You would not believe the shitstorms relatively minor PvP infractions can cause there.

As dm's your better being hard as nails and taking no shit than opening yourself up to that abuse.

[DEV Driller]

The problem is everyone has their pet peeve about how something should be. If only you would do what they suggest the server would be perfect. I am guilty of this myself.

The best thing to do is follow your vision of how you want the server to be and stick with it.
Remember, when you try to please everyone, you please no one.

Thanks,
-driller

[Erulaan D'Anhoor]

Driller is wise in the ways of the persistent world.

Karma to you.

[blametherogue]

i'm sorry if any of my comments sounded inflammatory. i'm not trying to rain on everyone's parade. i'm not the most patient guy in the world. i have a little patience, that was all learned, not innate. i'm a passionate guy, that is not afraid to give his honest opinion. i think this is a beautiful world, with great potential, and i love what you're doing here. i'm just set in my ways, and as far as leveling is concerned, it's a bit difficult currently for soloing, which is where i'm usually stuck at with my weird playing times. it was easier for me before, as a casual player, to level solo, before the mob xp drop. i cant always find a group, and it doesnt always match my characters' rp to party with others. i played one of my characters earlier today, and was on an hour, i rped quite a bit, and grinded just a little, but i wasnt able to find a group through rp. all of my characters usually have that personality quirk....just a few good friends, equal time spent alone, and with others. and i know lvls arent everything, i personally just feel more comfortable with a capable pc to rp with. i dont want to play on an action server, where no one rps. i hate that. it's why i left all the mmorpgs i've played. i love being IC.....those that have played with me can vouch for that. i just want to be able to rp, adventure, quest, and get steady xp so that my character can become capable enough to be able to be involved with the world and it's direction. one of my closest friends on here has a main toon that is epic level, and i cannot adventure with him with any of my current toons because of the level difference. this is partly my fault because it took me so long to figure out what i wanted to play, and now that i've decided, i'm a bit far behind. i really do have fun playing these two toons, more than the other ones i've rolled. one is lvl 7, and the other is lvl 4, but i feel kind of helpless atm. i like the rp xp idea mentioned in the other thread. if this were implented i'd rp my way to lvls more than npc quests and grinding. a little advice, and a little help. the toons i rolled are not fighters, so that makes it even more challenging for me. again, i never meant my comments to sound like bashing. that particular change in the pw effected casual players like me quite a bit, and it just upset me a bit, and made me a bit frustrated.

for player and dm information, my lvl 7 character is a rogue named tymoran. as for the other character, well, that's kind of a secret. but if any of the dms are curious, feel free to pm me with any questions. now that i think about it, dm cephas in particular may find this character interesting.

[goggmagogg]

Here's an amusing and lighthearted perspective on the gaming world. And if truth be known I recognise in myself some of the behaviour described, but i'm not in therapy over it ...yet!

Read and enjoy.

www.raphkoster.com/gaming/laws.shtml

//Gogg