RP advice, would a Paladin do this?

[Raist]

Well, I'm sort of wanting to involve my character.
But I'm uncertain if this is roleplay appropriate, so wanted to hear what you guys thought.

*EDIT* I had the The Weave Masters in mind, as they seek to encourage responsible use of magic, and to hunt down those who display improper use of it.

But a good point is, that this might take too much of a paladins time and make him strall too far from the pah he is on. Thou I'm still doubting.

So if its a guard for mages, seeking to encourage responsible magic use?

Thanks for any advice in advance

[lorgin2003]

i can see it, especially if he's a guardian of his church. though, as a standard guard, i kinda doubt it. he would pretty much be missing his calling. he's a holy warrior, not a knight. there IS a difference. a holy warrior would be like the templars during the crusades. they fought to spread their religion, and to kill those who opposed it. a knight kills all those who are a threat to their king and kingdom.

[atlas]

Paladin's really only become guards of something, which is nearly always a sacred site like a church, when they grow old and retire or rendered unable to be in active service, such as being maimed. They will never guard or do anything for personal wealth unless it directly benefits their cause which is for the most part destroying evil. What i mean when i say directly is they wouldnt use gold earned to buy a fancy piece of clothing that serves no purpose other than to feed your vanity. They would use gold to finance their cause, which must be just.

Due to their health benefits (Being immune to disease and sickness, aswell as fear) even the short livid Paladins are on active service for a bloody long time, well into their 70's for a Human or Half-Orc. The thing is they are fighting evil doers literally every day and so most do not see 40. A young healthy Paladin would not be content to simply guard a church because it would be a waste of his ability (Lorewise they're the shit when it comes to destroying evil and fighting in general), unless they're guarding some great evil like the Knights Of The Vigil guarding Demogorgon's prison or an extremely powerful holy artifact.

[lorgin2003]

dude, i completely forgot about the monetary restrictions. 3rd edition took away most of the financial strain. before that, you could only have like 100 gold, and had to donate all the rest to your church. once you hit higher levels, you pretty much had singlehandedly financed the richest church on the planet.

[davidb]

You can't be part of a mercenary army like the fist AND serve a church. As a soldier, you could be ordered anything, and you would follow orders no matter what, even if it's against the mandates of your god.

However, your character could realize this at some point in the future, and it can even become a RP oportunity.

[DM blessedone]

Oct 1, 2008 6:17:56 GMT -5 davidb said:

You can't be part of a mercenary army like the fist AND serve a church. As a soldier, you could be ordered anything, and you would follow orders no matter what, even if it's against the mandates of your god.

However, your character could realize this at some point in the future, and it can even become a RP oportunity.

Unless of course your Palladin/Cleric is too young and too inexperienced to know this right now. Some people have to learn the hard way what is the right path for them. I consider the first part of the lower levels as, well, your life just after college.....RP oppertunities? Oh, there is lot's of 'em there!! What I am saying is this....IF it is your plan to show an inner struggle with your PC in terms of their moral compass, then, this is a great oppertunity. Perhaps your Palladin did not truly understand or know what they were signing on for. Perhaps they only knew that they wanted to fight against evil....Oh, and you can be a part of both the Church and the Fist, because, you can always step down if it does not follow your moral compass and you realize this once your in it to win it...

[Raist]

Thanks for all the good points, and I had the same speculations as most of the above.
Allthou, I think I should come clean and tell exactly what I had in mind, since it seems everyone thinks its the fists I was thinking of.

I had the The Weave Masters in mind, as they seek to encourage responsible use of magic, and to hunt down those who display improper use of it.

But a good point is, that this might take too much of a paladins time and make him strall too far from the pah he is on. Thou I'm still doubting.

So if its a guard for mages, seeking to encourage responsible magic use?

[wildelf]

Take an example from the old TV show Have Gun Will Travel. The character worked as a hired gunfighter (best in the US) but never would agree to do anything unlawful or evil.

[guildmaster]

I'm a little biased of course since I started the Weave Masters but in the end it depends on how you want to RP it. Paladins aren't just guardians, they're righteous warriors and divine champions (not the prestige class). I found a wiki on Paladins (link below). It has If you were a Paladin of Mystra, it fits very well into your RP. If not, it really depends. If you see your PC as the champion of the church, there might be that occasion that the church and the new organization may conflict. If you're just a divine champion, you may not necessarily be bound to just the church's defense. I'm a Weave Master Exarch and I follow Ilmater if it helps any. "Lawful" just means that you're bound to some kind of tenets or law, not necessarily the laws of the land.

PS: Weave Guardians aren't really mercenaries although I think I did use the term "hire" which suggests so. Even a paladin/guardian of a church is clothed/fed/maintained which doesn't necessarily mean s/he is a mercenary.

Links on Paladins
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paladin_(Dungeons_&_Dragons)

[darksoul]

Welp, heres my two copper. Yes, your Paladin can be a guard or guardian, especially if its for the good of the city, or wherever. Helm has alot of Paladins that are guards as well, so don't under estimate that fact of FR. 8)

[Raist]

Well if the Weave masters follow Illmater, I do not really see a problem with the faith, since my paladin is following Tyr, the greater god of the triad Tyr, Ilmater and Torm.
Illmater works as Tyr's "right hand", helping him to live with his disabilities (blinded by the overgod Ao and lost his right hand to Kezef the Chaos Hound)

I will consider this, and thanks to everyone for thier input

[Zealote]

Tyr is not blind yet. ;D

Zeal

[Raist]

His eyes were put out by Lord Ao for questioning the Overgod's decision to punish all the deities for Bane's (and somewhat Mykul's) theft of the Tablets of Fate, inscribed by Lord Ao to outline the roles of the deities of Toril. This happens in 1358 DR, I forgot we are only in 1353 DR

Anyway, the faith doesn't seem to be a barrier, I'm still considering other aspects of this decision, and also love to hear more inputs.

[davidb]

Raist, a Paladin's life is serving his faith. Anything else you do will get in the way. That's how I see it.

Like someone said once: "There cannot be two skies"

[Val32]

couldn't you'r paladin multi-class. that would open up many other opportunities as long as the AL. is not in conflict.
I play a fighter/cleric of Tyr who is a member of the Fist.
Seemed to him the easiest way to his own end's...being a cleric was a mean's only!