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Post by DEV Jlf2n on Sept 16, 2008 16:06:03 GMT -5
So who would help me pay? I found a server hosting company that would charge us $120 a month for a 40 person server. Or $190 for a 64 person server. We could pay month to month, or get a %25 discount for the whole year.
Maybe for people who pay monthly, I can build houses in the Palace District or something of the like in return.
I could pay 20 bucks a month. Who else would be willing to help?
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Post by Ryokami on Sept 16, 2008 16:35:50 GMT -5
I would love to donate at least 20+ on the matter, if it will help with a lot of situations on this serve then yea I would pay to play. I would be more than happy to.
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Post by sen on Sept 16, 2008 16:56:07 GMT -5
5-10 sounds reasonable to me.
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Post by BOGUS on Sept 16, 2008 17:09:04 GMT -5
Will you take it in gems? ;D
Aye, i can pay 20$ a month for never lagging forever online server. House....hmmm.....yes... or maybe even small castles not far from Baldur's Gate ...*dreaming*... and other things i suppose, well, have to think about what insane benefits player can get from every month paying. 120$ - it is just six players.
I think there must be a system with 5-10-15-20 bucks. For 20 bucks a month you are granted the noble title, house, personal servant whom you can take into adventures and level up him and two horses. I am sure sooner or later ridable horses will be created on the vault. For 15$ a month - you choose three benefits from this four, for 10$ - two, for 5$ - one benefet - or title, or house, or horse, or servant. I would pay 20!!!!
*beautiful lady, dressed as a servant, jumps of the horse and puts note on the wall of Elfsong Tavern: "Noble miladies and milords of Baldur's Gate - Lord Bjorl Barro invites you for a dinner in his Old GreatAxe Castle " * ;D Aye!!!!!!!
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Post by mingming on Sept 16, 2008 17:22:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately, while I would be willing, I have zero disposable income right now to even make a one-time donation, much less a monthly one. If the economy improves, I might be able to spare something once ina while, but regular donations seems hard to imagine consistently for anyone in this span.
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Post by DEV Akavit on Sept 16, 2008 18:06:29 GMT -5
I am able to contribute. Most likely it would be $10.00 a month though possibly more.
The 25% discount would be great but it is probably dreaming to imagine that the players would be capable of gathering that kind of money on short notice. If the yearly thing were to be done, I can give the $120 in a single payment.
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Post by madcomposer on Sept 16, 2008 18:15:35 GMT -5
I would absolutely love to contribute, and I would prefer the lump-sum kind (~$180). I am jobless right now, so I might not be able to help this year.
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Post by Zealote on Sept 16, 2008 18:32:17 GMT -5
I can help with 20 a month. But i dont need a house in the Palace Dist. Perhaps a room in the Temple of Tyr for Valek? ;D Or even a small thing like ''Lord Valek Sunborn''. lmao. Just kidding. I would gladly help with my gold bro.
-Zeal
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Post by joey1666 on Sept 17, 2008 1:43:02 GMT -5
Id donate for a faction house!
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Post by DEV Driller on Sept 17, 2008 8:09:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't give anything in return for a donation. That would possibly break the EULA. Thanks, -driller So who would help me pay? I found a server hosting company that would charge us $120 a month for a 40 person server. Or $190 for a 64 person server. We could pay month to month, or get a %25 discount for the whole year. Maybe for people who pay monthly, I can build houses in the Palace District or something of the like in return. I could pay 20 bucks a month. Who else would be willing to help?
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Post by borton on Sept 17, 2008 10:38:39 GMT -5
i would donate but i' am on a tight income and would have to figure it in but 5 to10 bucks sound right
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Post by derf on Sept 17, 2008 10:42:07 GMT -5
Actually just taking "donations" is sort of boarding on the EULA with Bioware and Obsidian, however they have said before they are not against it as long as it remains a donation and not a subscription fee to play. If players want to donate...fine, but do not request that players MUST donate for anything in game or for the priviledge to play. Plus you better not ever use those donations for anything other than paying the bill for the service. Granted it would be 100% impossible for OE or Bio to ever know you used 41 dollars of donations to fill your car withe current gas prices, but I feel it is bad form and if I was to found out I would drop that server like a dirty bad habit. Plus awarding players who donate with an in game item, is also boarding on the EULA, but several servers have done it in the past with only a slight whine/groan, because it "could" lead to going against the EULA. For example if you already have Player Housing in game, but the cost in gold is rather large, BUT you decide to let a player have a house (skipping the gold requirement) because they donated for a professional server service, that's probably only boarding the EULA, but anouncing to the players on your forum, they can get X if they donate Y amount, or they can get Z if they donate Y amount or if they donate A amount they get B IS breaking the EULA. The biggest problem you may have is other players may feel your "favoring" certain players only because they are financially better off than another. At most I would simply add a special ICON to their forum name that appears on all their posts that says something like "Donation Member" or "Founding Member". This way you stay outside of the scope of the game for rewards for donations and the donaters still get recognized for helping your player base. I wouldn't give anything in return for a donation. That would possibly break the EULA. Thanks, -driller So who would help me pay? I found a server hosting company that would charge us $120 a month for a 40 person server. Or $190 for a 64 person server. We could pay month to month, or get a %25 discount for the whole year. Maybe for people who pay monthly, I can build houses in the Palace District or something of the like in return. I could pay 20 bucks a month. Who else would be willing to help?
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Post by Thief Of Navarre on Sept 17, 2008 10:58:45 GMT -5
I could and would if it meant a server without lag!
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Post by DEV Jlf2n on Sept 17, 2008 13:56:14 GMT -5
Yeah after my post the EULA is something that came to mind.
I can't see Obsidian wanting to do anything about it unless it was a blatant way of trying to make money. They are well aware by now that a personal PC is not going to run a PW of any size unless its on a commercial connection.
I'm not looking at this as a way to make money. If I won't let my in-laws give me money I'm certainly not going to take it from people who could possibly need it much worse. But I'm surely not going to pay 200 dollars a month for a server when I already give this place about 6 hours a day of building and admin work.
So something has to be done if the PW is going to continue to operate. Plus I don't think Obsidian would want to say to much anyway considering we are selling games for them. I can produce about 30 emails, posts and messages were people have said they bought both the game and the expansion just to try the PW out. ;D
But in all seriousness the server we are using now isn't going to be available forever. We will have to either find one, rent one, or fade away.
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Post by sen on Sept 17, 2008 14:54:02 GMT -5
I don´t think they are going to use it for something other than the server bills. There´s already a hell lot of work spent in the pw, setting up the free-of-charge server and providing the module and I´d bet noone of the people working on it has seen a single penny out of it so far. I would suggest something like a donate counter on the site, with the mothly goal and the funds displayed. Maybe even so that everyone can see how much was donated and by whom, so people know their money is where it should be.
If everyone who can and is willing to do contributes a bit, the costs could fall easily down to about 3 per month dollars for each. It still should be voluntarily though.
Edit: Rewards ingame? We can have a lagfree server, if that isn´t a reward good enough, then what is? ;D
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