Karma, good or bad?

[DEV Jlf2n]

For me I have always felt like it prompts people to think before they speak. What about you? Do you think we should keep it or remove it?

[adzling]

it totally depends upon how seriously people take it.
on the last server i played on they removed it from their boards because people were punishing those they didn't agree with by dinging them karma and people started getting into arguments just based around their silly karma points on the boards!

i could care less.

[meldor]

I like it but I would like to see who smite or give you Karma, I know I have been bashed before but some peoples over exaggerate. If you smite someone it's for a reason, be fair say why but hidden like it's I don't think it's fair play.

[DM Sin]

LOL To be honest I don't even know what its for! Good ideas? Bad ideas? Your saying things out of line? Your putting forward good ideas?

If you could see which people were "smiting" you then I thnk it would lead to bitternes between people. For whatever reason its on I'm not too fussed about it -

Karma for everyone whos replied to this thread so far!

*Josh you have too mch already *

[highwayman]

I tend to use it when someone acts like an ass or pushes for ridiculous class restrictions(or re-balances).

*edit*
P.S. It's not an mmo.

-shrugs-

[Zealote]

I agree with meldor. We should see who exalts or smites you. People that exalts usually speak up. But the ones that smite you keep quiet.
Should be visible though.
And also should take 2 exalts or 2 smites (By different people) to modify the karma status. This way avoids the 'revenge smite'. And makes the karma thing more like a comunity view of a poster, instead of a single minded opinion.
Like: Oh yeah you wanna smite me? Ill smite you too!

[Tiefling]

*Spits cobwebs, and shakes a cane at you youngsters.*

In short 'Karma' is just your another forum reputation point system. And I've seen a lot of those. Thus, I could say: if people may see who gives out karma, or takes it away - they'll just act accordingly and give or take some karma in return...

Heck...

I'll just skip a lot of writing and say; Karma or any similar forum script doesn't work beyond giving people a small impact on what is shown below, next to, or above each other's avatars.



But if you are stubborn about making people think before what they post, you could allow people seeing which posts they‘ve gained their points from. But in reality it, does it really serve beyond one’s own possible curiosity about where those points have come from?


P.S. You can be sure that I’ll never think before, or after, writing a post. It would ruin the fun, you see.



*Goes away mumbling about youngsters thesedays. *

[thegnomeherder]

I think I'm always a bit smite happy.

But really I love the system and I exalt everyone I agree with or I see come up with a good idea.
Honestly, I only smite with people when they quote me and say something back that reveals they totally misunderstood what I said.

[Tiefling]

Jan 12, 2009 18:52:46 GMT -5 thegnomeherder said:

Honestly, I only smite with people when they quote me and say something back that reveals they totally misunderstood what I said.

Now, saying things like that should get you smited.

(Could someone explain why I said that one line. Easy task, or is it not? If you write a reply, could you please ignore the text in cursive.)

[broham2]

I don't mind it, it lets you know that people have appreciated (or dont appreciate) a post without them having to say so...

I know that I exalt most RP posts, and reserver smitage for those that show either arrogance or stubborn narrow mindedness with their posts..

It may be my cynical nature, but I hope this poll/question isnt coming from a request from one of those with negative karma... because really that is exactly why they have negative karma.

[magicshisha]

Frankly, I have to say that I dislike it.

Of course it's a nice thing to get karma and many people view it as good way to give someone credit for something they liked or for something the person on the receiving end has accomplished.
More and more often you even read comments to a specific post that say something like: "Have some karma, bud" or "Great Idea! Karma for you!"

But have you ever read the antithetic statement? Maybe a comment like: "I disagree with your idea, I will take some karma from you for that" or "Sorry, but I have to smite you for this post"?

No? Odd, isn't it? Actually it's quite self-explanatory: When you exalt, you want the person to know it, maybe to get some sympathy and a karma point in return - but you always smite from the shadows because you don't want to risk being smitten in return.

The fact that the karma-option and especially the smite-option is anonymous is not only counterproductive but also perfidious and phony. It would be much more efficient if you tell the person you disagree with, for what reasons you would want to smite him/her.

But hitting the smite button is the convenient and easy way since people usually tend to avoid conflict situations.

Taken to extremes, and please note that I am exaggerating here, this karmaprostitution abets to conformity.
If John comes up with an, in his opinion, obviously controvertible suggestion or idea and presumes that people will dislike it and might smite him, he might think twice before posting. But John might have been wrong and his suggestion would have been actually good and liked by the majority. Who knows!

Having a negative karma count can be very demotivating for some and I have noticed that people who stay in the dephts of the karma-hell will eventually leave the server.
Considering that you can abuse the option by smiting a person repeatedly incognito to "help" him/her get a negative karma count seems dangerous to me.


Thanks,
-magicshisha

[DM Sir Carnifex]

Well, after taking a look at my karma points, I'd have to say I really like it! ;D

[Zealote]

Jan 12, 2009 19:13:30 GMT -5 @magicshisha said:

Frankly, I have to say that I dislike it.

Of course it's a nice thing to get karma and many people view it as good way to give someone credit for something they liked or for something the person on the receiving end has accomplished.
More and more often you even read comments to a specific post that say something like: "Have some karma, bud" or "Great Idea! Karma for you!"

But have you ever read the antithetic statement? Maybe a comment like: "I disagree with your idea, I will take some karma from you for that" or "Sorry, but I have to smite you for this post"?

No? Odd, isn't it? Actually it's quite self-explanatory: When you exalt, you want the person to know it, maybe to get some sympathy and a karma point in return - but you always smite from the shadows because you don't want to risk being smitten in return.

The fact that the karma-option and especially the smite-option is anonymous is not only counterproductive but also perfidious and phony. It would be much more efficient if you tell the person you disagree with, for what reasons you would want to smite him/her.

But hitting the smite button is the convenient and easy way since people usually tend to avoid conflict situations.

Taken to extremes, and please note that I am exaggerating here, this karmaprostitution abets to conformity.
If John comes up with an, in his opinion, obviously controvertible suggestion or idea and presumes that people will dislike it and might smite him, he might think twice before posting. But John might have been wrong and his suggestion would have been actually good and liked by the majority. Who knows!

Having a negative karma count can be very demotivating for some and I have noticed that people who stay in the dephts of the karma-hell will eventually leave the server.
Considering that you can abuse the option by smiting a person repeatedly incognito to "help" him/her get a negative karma count seems dangerous to me.


Thanks,
-magicshisha

Jan 12, 2009 18:41:48 GMT -5 Zealote said:

I agree with meldor. We should see who exalts or smites you. People that exalts usually speak up. But the ones that smite you keep quiet.
Should be visible though.
And also should take 2 exalts or 2 smites (By different people) to modify the karma status. This way avoids the 'revenge smite'. And makes the karma thing more like a community view of a poster, instead of a single minded opinion.
Like: Oh yeah you wanna smite me? Ill smite you too!

Quoted myself for emphasis.

[adzling]

magicshisha is so on the money with his post and its so well thought out i am in awe.

[Erulaan D'Anhoor]

Its cool if you are in middle school...I guess.