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Post by broham2 on Jan 11, 2009 20:33:52 GMT -5
I have multiple characters in different guilds, and in guilds that actuallyoppose each other (on a organization level even) and there are many others players in the same boat. We havent had any issues, and the intrigue on the surface runs as deep as any drow house... I suggest we leave our rules as they are, instead of changing things because you had it bad on your old server. There is nothing different about the UD than the surface to try to create all sorts of new player rules. Intrigue is all around us, believe me. the UD will grow in players so you shouldn't worry about not having enough. question: what happens when you try to create a RP plot against a quellar when that PLAYER has one toon in your guild and ANOTHER toon in your RP target? Having a single toon in a quellar and a school is more acceptable (although it could still cause problems) because at least you know where you stand (for example you might not trust that toon with information regarding RP with their quellar). In this instance any information passed by the player's toon to their house IS NOT METAGAMING because it occurs IC. The problem arises when player "A" has toon "1" in the school of arcana AND toon "2" in another school or house. Player "A" can then pass information back and forth OOC (i.e. metagaming) completely destroying RP. You follow me here? cheers for the response.
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Post by adzling on Jan 11, 2009 21:09:31 GMT -5
well right now you are in beta with more limited playerbase.
As the playerbase increases and becomes more diversified metgaming issues from this kind of thing become rampant.
Players do not have to know everything that is happening on the server and in fact it's better if they don't as it adds to the surprise and suspense.
Metagaming destroys rp.
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Post by DM Sir Carnifex on Jan 11, 2009 23:36:09 GMT -5
I'd say in keeping with the light-handed approach this server has always had, we'd be best keeping to the rules we have already. If we place the one guild restriction on players, then they will all become dead.
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Post by adzling on Jan 12, 2009 0:24:18 GMT -5
well absent a server-wide rule it's up to the guilds to decide their own rules.
I will endeavour to encourage the guild/s my single toon participates in to adopt these anti-metagaming precautions.
Of course down the road you may change your mind when you see metagaming destroying RP plots and threads.
Or we may get lucky and this server may be immune to it, which of course I would hope for.
We'll see!
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Post by adzling on Jan 13, 2009 18:06:50 GMT -5
I have also begun to incorporate some of this lore where possible into my character's bio and storyline which you can find in the character bio section of the forums under the title "the ascension of cel'lith morcane". This makes it a little easier to digest as it's in story format rather than just jamming a bunch of raw lore into your noggin.
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Post by broham2 on Jan 13, 2009 18:13:45 GMT -5
Other than the fairly steady dropping of Drow 'vocabulary' into the stories, anyway... if you want to do that I'd recommend putting the translations in parentheses.
I know some thinks this adds 'flavor' or what have you, but I ain't the time, patience, or willingness to learn a fantasy language.
I will not *emphasis on not* speak drow while playing my character in the UD.. I certainly dont speak Hin, Dwarf, Cant, or Elven while on the surface!
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Post by adzling on Jan 13, 2009 19:12:19 GMT -5
it's usually pretty obvious from the context what the words are.
of course your mileage may vary.
no one is forcing anyone to rp using drow vocab in RP, i just do it cause im a drow nut.
I don't think any less of anyone who doesn't so don't worry about that.
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Post by Zealote on Jan 14, 2009 18:25:36 GMT -5
This is also why drow are so mean to one another and other races. Ahhh, I thought it was just because they were nasty evil bastards... ;D
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Post by adzling on Jan 14, 2009 18:27:27 GMT -5
haha well that too zealote ;-)
well actually there are sooo many reasons perhaps i should address that in the next lesson. "why drow are such mean motherf****rs"
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Post by highwayman on Jan 15, 2009 15:20:19 GMT -5
If that's the case I've a question. Not sure if the pantheon exists pre ToT. But the gods can not exist without a reasonable number of followers. Seeing that, if Good drow are so incredibly rare, how then does what's her name hold any power? (goddess of good drow)
edited *Eilistraee
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Post by adzling on Jan 15, 2009 15:40:02 GMT -5
good question!
1) Ellistrae accepts non-drow (although they cannot rise above lay-worshipper and comprise a smaller percentage of her church than drow) and half-drow. 2). We're talking relatively here. So while there may be a population of 1 million drow (who knows im making that up) if even 1% defect to ellistrae and then continue to breed children and raise them in the way of the church she can gain more drow than she would by just relying on defection resulting in enough to apparently give her power.
But it's never really addressed in lore directly as far as i can see, it's just implied that this is this case. If you examine the size and scope of her church (it's pretty small and localized) it's of a similar size and scope as ghaunadaur or vhaeraun or selvetarm or kieransalee. So I assume that those drow demi-gods also muster similar numbers of worshippers (but i could be wrong here).
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Post by adzling on Jan 16, 2009 17:48:20 GMT -5
can someone delete this thread now that it's all consolidated and prettied up in the "Welcome to Sshamath, the trade city" thread? <magicshisha asked me to consolidate it to make it more legible> And credit where credit is due, I ripped off the name for the new thread from Zealote as his title was more appropriate given the direction the thread took. cheers! feel free to ask questions in the new thread! link: Lore of the Lands
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