mrdeadman
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Post by mrdeadman on Dec 11, 2008 22:49:23 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't want to sound like a complainer either, but I do have one pet peeve that drives me crazy and it is rampant on this server. Granted I have only been here a couple weeks, but it's really starting to annoy me.
The problem is with a group of people called NINJA HEALERS. The people that just run up to you no matter what and cast a healing spell on you because you are "hurt". This isn't against people in your party, just random passers by that feel the need to heal.
My reasons for not liking it;
1. If I'm in battle and someone just appears (not in my party) and starts running at me casting, in truth, I would probably not think they were coming to heal me and they would get a sword in the belly. But, the game mechanics don't offer the kind of reaction time to interrupt the spell anyway. Fair warning, if it continues to happen, I will start attacking LOL.
2. Most of the time when said healing is being used I am down like 15 out of 80 hp's. That doesn't even show up as a cut so without a little box over my head with the word injured in it, you wouldn't even know. I think that's called meta-gaming.
3. If you really want to RP, think about this; your god probably wouldn't grant you a healing spell for some joe-shmoe you pass on road, especially if your god is not the god of healing or the guardian of the weak. How crappy would you really feel if you as a Tyrian priest randomly healed a follower of Cyric and he went and murdered eight children.
These are just a few examples, trust me, I could go on. Ninja Healers are most definitely not good RP. This goes for ninja buffers too. (In my first minute on the server, I wasn't even out of the inn when someone ran up to me and cast heroism on me without a word spoken to me).
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thegnomeherder
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Post by thegnomeherder on Dec 11, 2008 23:01:55 GMT -5
I second that.
Keep your shiny stuff to yourselves!
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Post by DM williamfredrickson on Dec 11, 2008 23:20:57 GMT -5
I just created a new character the other day, a druid named Boris Skogodlaren. He was prancing about near the temple of Bhaal, enjoying the countryside and ended up being smacked around by a few gnolls. I took some damage, then all the sudden this fellow ran up and healed me, then ran away into the night. However, the fellow did RP it after I chased after him(dropping a note in his wake and such) so it did work. Saved my life actually =]
But I have noticed that some folk do simply run up, heal, then run away without another word. Maybe if someone is going to do such a thing like that they should type in some action for the player to see, like "*suddenly sprints away without saying a word*", or something like that, instead of leaving the recently healed character just standing there, gawking.
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Post by shorn on Dec 12, 2008 3:46:53 GMT -5
Ive only done it once so far, spur of the moment as I was running along, and the player asked me not to anymore, so I didnt. Funny though, that my character cant make a decision to do a random act of kindness and run off.
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Raist
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Post by Raist on Dec 12, 2008 8:01:30 GMT -5
Any interaction without RP on a RP server, is annoying to those that wish to RP.
and so i understand how annoying it is when people just ninja heal you, however if the ninja healer simply roleplays just a little bit. I do not see the problem with this. If you are wounded, why expect a good character with the power to heal you, not to do a random act of kindness?
Also, if you are wounded with more than 10% of your total health, you should really assume that bystanders can see you are wounded, hear your moans of pain and see the blood dripping or the brusies in your face.
just my 2 cents
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mrdeadman
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Post by mrdeadman on Dec 12, 2008 9:05:16 GMT -5
Funny though, that my character cant make a decision to do a random act of kindness and run off. I refer your random act of kindness to the end of point 3. No good deed goes unpunished. however if the ninja healer simply roleplays just a little bit. I do not see the problem with this. Also, if you are wounded with more than 10% of your total health, you should really assume that bystanders can see you are wounded, hear your moans of pain and see the blood dripping or the bruises in your face. A little RP is all I ask. Maybe asking me if you can help. Give me time to ask what god you serve cuz maybe I don't want to be healed by the power of Bane. Also, according to D&D (at least it used to be) only 25% of hit points are actually physical damage. According to that formula my 80 HP character would have to be below 20 to show wounds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another good point I feel now worth mentioning. In order to heal someone almost all spells require you to put your hands on the other person. I had a paladin arrested for assault on another server for ninja healing a female character I had there. Most of the time I make a show of checking my possessions if someone NH's me. Just a little RP and all this could be avoided.
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Post by driderman on Dec 12, 2008 10:58:04 GMT -5
I hate those people. Intruding on my personal space like that, without even asking. I'm tempted to smack them down, without asking either.
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Post by larkin on Dec 12, 2008 11:04:10 GMT -5
I hate those people. Intruding on my personal space like that, without even asking. I'm tempted to smack them down, without asking either. Yeah, would be a good solution. For my 2 favourite characters even RP wise. I mean, they started PvP with tossing a spell at you ... ^^
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Post by broham2 on Dec 12, 2008 11:12:17 GMT -5
I don't think it would be out of bounds to attack someone that healed you.. they did kind of start it with the spell on you...its no different than catching a pick pocket in my opinion, they start the RP with their actions, you are just continuing the RP along.
Just remember, you are obviously already wounded (hence the need to be healed), and the person healing you is likely good.
You might end up with bigger issues than ninja healing. lol.
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Post by DM Cephas on Dec 12, 2008 13:04:21 GMT -5
Hey guys, Although I do agree with you that ninja-healing is strange in an RP-sense, let's not get too crazy. The Admin saw this as a RP server... not a hardcore RP server. Some people are just learning how to RP for the first time and probably thought that it was the cool thing to do to help someone out. Just send them a polite tell that your PC doesn't like that sort of thing but thanks anyway. If people refuse to RP with you, just ignore them. As a DM, I can ask participants to RP things out because non-RP'ers will affect everyone (and DM-events tend to be for RP-ers) but in a random setting, just ignore them. If they're new, let them know/teach them some of the subtleties of RP). We all started as a noob at some point, didn't we?
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Post by borton on Dec 12, 2008 13:23:05 GMT -5
I occasionally play cleric hover iam not to beg on a lot of RP for those that know me know why how ever i have wont let you die in a event if i cant help it can always RP it later borton
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Post by loudent2 on Dec 12, 2008 13:32:17 GMT -5
according to D&D (at least it used to be) only 25% of hit points are actually physical damage. According to that formula my 80 HP character would have to be below 20 to show wounds. No, they didn't say that last 25% were actual wounds. So if you took 20 pts (down to 60) of damage, 5 would be actual damage. (or 1/4 of your total physical damage hp).
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mrdeadman
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Post by mrdeadman on Dec 12, 2008 13:35:16 GMT -5
Cephas, that is the main reason I posted this thread, to let people know about it.
Borton, I'm not talking about being in an event and getting healed. That's fine. Were all there and know whats going on. You are essentially in their party, even if not partied up.
Loudent, you are not getting my point, unless that five hit points is directly to my nose, you wont see it or know that I'm injured. It is not a significant enough injury to be obvious. I'm not going to limp from having a gnoll step on my foot.
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Post by DM Cephas on Dec 12, 2008 14:07:30 GMT -5
Cephas, that is the main reason I posted this thread, to let people know about it. Borton, I'm not talking about being in an event and getting healed. That's fine. Were all there and know whats going on. You are essentially in their party, even if not partied up. Loudent, you are not getting my point, unless that five hit points is directly to my nose, you wont see it or know that I'm injured. It is not a significant enough injury to be obvious. I'm not going to limp from having a gnoll step on my foot. Okay. I would probably re-phrase the thread header from "Just another rant" to "RP recommendations: ninja-healing" then. Since you're the more veteran RP-er, try to make it a point to teach rather than rant. Although I've caught myself doing that before, we should be mindful that we don't sound like RP elitists. As mentioned, there are some that are new to this so let's help them along without sounding like berating them. (and if they just want to grind even if they stop for a second to help someone out, just ignore them) Thanks for the post though. Let's work together to build this PW into what it can be.
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Post by His Masters Voice on Dec 12, 2008 16:31:01 GMT -5
The disguised drow Borrie and I play randomly encounter players, and if they notice the individual wincing, or otherwise, they'll offer some aid, but this offer has only extended to one person thus far anyways. Everyone else is running around with "Near Death" and they're worried about my helmet.
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