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Post by Iceshard on Mar 2, 2009 17:20:41 GMT -5
*shifts eyes about*....
Um... anything going on with the warrior set of items or ranger set that I sent in? ... Doesnt make much sense to make items that you already have made... But eh thats just me.
-Ice
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Post by eviliguana966 on Mar 2, 2009 17:34:03 GMT -5
Good system, though I think it needs to go to at least +6 at epic levels when it comes to attributes. I'd also like to see some items with save bonuses instead of skills.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Mar 2, 2009 17:38:03 GMT -5
Good system, though I think it needs to go to at least +6 at epic levels when it comes to attributes. I'd also like to see some items with save bonuses instead of skills. The save bonuses are already in the game on rings and capes.
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Post by caveman282 on Mar 2, 2009 17:51:53 GMT -5
Good system, though I think it needs to go to at least +6 at epic levels when it comes to attributes. I'd also like to see some items with save bonuses instead of skills. + 6??? Items use to be only + 2 be happy for the items we are getting. Sorry if this came off rude bit it seem like lately all ppl can do is grip and complain about the stuff that is being done and not being done. I'm sure glad im not a dev or dm, I couldnt take all the complaints without blowing up. Seems like all ppl do latly is whine about how oped this class and that class is and how we need to nerf this and nerf that and how that they need to add + 12 items in. THANK YOU DEVS AND DMS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS WORLD TO MAKE IT AS GREAT AS IT IS!*ok done venting*
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Post by DEV Jlf2n on Mar 2, 2009 17:58:13 GMT -5
*shifts eyes about*.... Um... anything going on with the warrior set of items or ranger set that I sent in? ... Doesnt make much sense to make items that you already have made... But eh thats just me. -Ice Your items are almost ready to. We are re-doing all 800 or so of them so they fall in line with these.
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Post by Iceshard on Mar 2, 2009 18:28:29 GMT -5
right o mate, thanks for the update.. Do you still have my stuff in ERF's? Luna was looking for them for the changer.. if you dont, Ill remake some of them when I get home from work.
-Ice
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Post by broham2 on Mar 2, 2009 18:33:54 GMT -5
Holy lord.. 800 new items?!
How do you expect any of my characters to ever leave the shops with those sorts of decisions? Hehe..
I like the grouping set up of these items, and cant wait to see all the new looks.
+6 is out of control for attribute bonuses if you ask me. Perhaps some epic items with +6 to a skill or two wouldnt be out of the question, but +6 on an attribute with all of the things that would change.. is flippin nutty if ya ask me.
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Post by Forumlord of Talos on Mar 2, 2009 19:52:45 GMT -5
HMM these items should fix the HIPS issue for you worry warts
A druid with owls insight a trickster with Clairaudiance/clairvoyance and greater heroism or a bard with amplify greater heroism and Clairaudiance/clairvoyance will be able to exceed a spot listen check max by anywhere from +5 to + 34 roughly just with spells to put them past the item max.
And no Eldur none of these classes have to specialize in the ability Spot and listen are class skill of any of these classes all of whom earn ample skill points per level to maintain spot or listen or both at maximum per level
this does not even take into account anyone who simply puts three levels in ranger or rogue type classes and utilizes the able learner feat and thru use of gear would be able to maintain a near equal par with a rogue hider.
If you folks wish to achieve balance many things other then just gear need to always be taken into consideration. I am sure you all spent some long hard hours on this and I applaud the effort. Lets just make sure it is what is really best for balance so that such hard work doesn't go unappreciated down the road
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Post by luna on Mar 2, 2009 20:08:15 GMT -5
HMM these items should fix the HIPS issue for you worry warts A druid with owls insight a trickster with Clairaudiance/clairvoyance and greater heroism or a bard with amplify greater heroism and Clairaudiance/clairvoyance will be able to exceed a spot listen check max by anywhere from +5 to + 34 roughly just with spells to put them past the item max. And no Eldur none of these classes have to specialize in the ability Spot and listen are class skill of any of these classes all of whom earn ample skill points per level to maintain spot or listen or both at maximum per level this does not even take into account anyone who simply puts three levels in ranger or rogue type classes and utilizes the able learner feat and thru use of gear would be able to maintain a near equal par with a rogue hider. If you folks wish to achieve balance many things other then just gear need to always be taken into consideration. I am sure you all spent some long hard hours on this and I applaud the effort. Lets just make sure it is what is really best for balance so that such hard work doesn't go unappreciated down the road Oui.. lets not go sideways on this topic again. The gear can be re-adjusted again if things get totally out of balance.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Mar 2, 2009 20:24:30 GMT -5
If you folks wish to achieve balance many things other then just gear need to always be taken into consideration. I am sure you all spent some long hard hours on this and I applaud the effort. Lets just make sure it is what is really best for balance so that such hard work doesn't go unappreciated down the road This isn't about balance, it's about more character customization options, especially within the stingy d&d skill confines. A side effect is balance, but it depends on the perspective you're looking from. Some will always min/max certain skills. Others will want variety.
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Post by korsantar on Apr 10, 2009 5:00:11 GMT -5
Interesting looking sets. If you have the time... I'd request adding favored soul variants of the cleric +spell slot items that are currently in game. Girdle of holy might (mid level spell slots) and the Ring of Holiness, Lesser, are the two that come to mind. edit: went to find the name of the ring.
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Post by tormaksaber on Apr 10, 2009 18:09:05 GMT -5
Interesting looking sets. If you have the time... I'd request adding favored soul variants of the cleric +spell slot items that are currently in game. Girdle of holy might (mid level spell slots) and the Ring of Holiness, Lesser, are the two that come to mind. edit: went to find the name of the ring. Could probably do the same for Spirit Shaman re: Druid items, maybe, though Spirit Shaman is further from its "Base class equivalent" than Favored Soul is.
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Post by eldur(retired) on Apr 10, 2009 18:22:12 GMT -5
The next round of items after this existing round gets pushed will include bonus spell slots in place of the AC or stat bonus.
This still needs to be tested for item balance, but it looks like we will do the following: +2 items will be Spell Slot levels 1 and 2 +3 items will be Spell Slot levels 1, 2 and 3
We will look to add these for each of the casting classes.
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Post by mute83 on Apr 18, 2009 9:06:37 GMT -5
looking forward to these items. when are they getting in. i need new gear with my toons, but i wont start buying things, when there are better gear on the way
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Post by lorgin2003 on Apr 20, 2009 11:16:10 GMT -5
Good system, though I think it needs to go to at least +6 at epic levels when it comes to attributes. I'd also like to see some items with save bonuses instead of skills. + 6??? i'd have to agree with the +6, for one main reason. a +6 to an ability score only gives +3 to all the numbers tied into it. with the way the bonuses work since 3rd edition, there's no really difference between having an 20 wisdom and having a 21 wisdom. they both give a +5 bonus, and both give the same amount of bonus spell slots. i would actually think that if +5 gear is eventually going to come in, the stat bonuses should actually go up to +10.
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